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Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:56 am

mafoofan wrote:
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If you have questions lmk. I don't know if others here have his pots.
Thanks! Seems you’ve had yours for a while. With use, experience, and perspective—any regrets? Do you still think you got what you paid for?
Yes, I use it fairly often for gaoshan oolong because it's thin and the size is on the larger end of things. Late Qing/ early ROC zhuni is nicer but often a bit thicker, thinner ones are often smaller, thinner and larger ones I haven't seen for under $3000 usd :)
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Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:13 pm

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I consider the money a tuition fee. I had never heard of cadogan pots before, and I only knew that the craftsmanship of this pot is bad not the clay.
Tuition fee is fine and a given for such a confusing and vast topic as Yixing. All I am saying is the money could be spent wiser :mrgreen:
I think I have a similar problem like @Mark-S
I recently just collected my 3rd specimen pot for reference. I think all three pots are commoner pots that were exported to the west about a hundred year ago. My most recent pot even have 2 holes that make the pot unusable :(
I am planning to see if I can get a staple to plug those two holes. Anyone have any staple repair pots care to comment on leakage?
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Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:20 pm

@DailyTX depends on the hole... if it’s too large I’d consider Kintsugi. There are specialists for other than staple and Kintsugi in China, but I doubt it’s worth the commoner pot and their workflow is probably not that smooth at the moment :(

I was just about to get some staples done, when the first rumours of the outbreak came in, lucky I didn’t send it out...
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Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:46 pm

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Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:20 pm
DailyTX depends on the hole... if it’s too large I’d consider Kintsugi. There are specialists for other than staple and Kintsugi in China, but I doubt it’s worth the commoner pot and their workflow is probably not that smooth at the moment :(

I was just about to get some staples done, when the first rumours of the outbreak came in, lucky I didn’t send it out...
@Bok
yeah...not much financial value for this pot, and definitely not worth sending it in to a specialist for repair. Since the pot worth a few cups of coffee, even if I break the pot during the self repair process, my wallet won't feel the pain :D
Talking about the repair, the holes are quite interest. From what I can imagine, it seems when the maker was making the 6 holes filter, the tool went too deep and stabbed the surface where the sprout and the bottom connects, and it left 2 bumps after firing. After long time usage, the surface of the bumps slowly wear out and became 2 tiny holes. However, this still doesn't make sense because modern artist typically drill the filter holes prior to installing the sprout. Unless installing the sprout then drill filter holes was a practice back in the days :?
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Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:53 pm

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yeah...not much financial value for this pot, and definitely not worth sending it in to a specialist for repair. Since the pot worth a few cups of coffee, even if I break the pot during the self repair process, my wallet won't feel the pain :D
Talking about the repair, the holes are quite interest. From what I can imagine, it seems when the maker was making the 6 holes filter, the tool went too deep and stabbed the surface where the sprout and the bottom connects, and it left 2 bumps after firing. After long time usage, the surface of the bumps slowly wear out and became 2 tiny holes. However, this still doesn't make sense because modern artist typically drill the filter holes prior to installing the sprout. Unless installing the sprout then drill filter holes was a practice back in the days :?
Could you snap a shot of it? Sounds like it would be an easy repair, relatively idiot-proof :lol:
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Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:05 pm

Bok wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:53 pm
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:46 pm
yeah...not much financial value for this pot, and definitely not worth sending it in to a specialist for repair. Since the pot worth a few cups of coffee, even if I break the pot during the self repair process, my wallet won't feel the pain :D
Talking about the repair, the holes are quite interest. From what I can imagine, it seems when the maker was making the 6 holes filter, the tool went too deep and stabbed the surface where the sprout and the bottom connects, and it left 2 bumps after firing. After long time usage, the surface of the bumps slowly wear out and became 2 tiny holes. However, this still doesn't make sense because modern artist typically drill the filter holes prior to installing the sprout. Unless installing the sprout then drill filter holes was a practice back in the days :?
Could you snap a shot of it? Sounds like it would be an easy repair, relatively idiot-proof :lol:
I would say it's a super easy repair lol, at one point I was thinking should I just jam a grain of rice there :D :D :D
I'll post a photo this weekend.
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I would say it's a super easy repair lol, at one point I was thinking should I just jam a grain of rice there :D :D :D
I'll post a photo this weekend.
That is actually not far off from what is done with kintsugi :lol:
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Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:34 pm

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I would say it's a super easy repair lol, at one point I was thinking should I just jam a grain of rice there :D :D :D
I'll post a photo this weekend.
That is actually not far off from what is done with kintsugi :lol:
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Have you heard of artists installing sprout first before drilling filter hole? Or did I came across a pot make by idiot? lol
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Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:36 pm

DailyTX wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:34 pm
Bok wrote:
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DailyTX wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:05 pm
I would say it's a super easy repair lol, at one point I was thinking should I just jam a grain of rice there :D :D :D
I'll post a photo this weekend.
That is actually not far off from what is done with kintsugi :lol:
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Have you heard of artists installing sprout first before drilling filter hole? Or did I came across a pot make by idiot? lol
Probably the latter... :mrgreen: Never heard of that before. Maybe forgot to make the holes before...
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Maybe someone here can shed light on this. I am pretty sure that this is a F1 pot. I could not find a similar one online, but the clay and craftsmanship look like F1 to me. Today, I noticed that the handle has got a seamline. In which cases does this indicate slipcasting? This cannot be slipcasting imho. Thanks in advance :)
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Maybe someone here can shed light on this. I am pretty sure that this is a F1 pot. I could not find a similar one online, but the clay and craftsmanship look like F1 to me. Today, I noticed that the handle has got a seamline. In which cases does this indicate slipcasting? This cannot be slipcasting imho. Thanks in advance :)
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I’d say it indicates that the handle was made with the help of a mould. Which makes sense for mass production.

As to era, I’ll let others comment ornament pots are not my forte.
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Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:10 am

@Bok
+1

If no other signs of slipcasting, then it means, that the handle was molded too.

Probably faster to make this style of pot, than to handmade the handle.
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And how do you know that this handle was made using a mold and the other handle was made by slipcasting? Sorry, if this a stupid question, but I do not see a pattern here.
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@Mark-S slipcast handle will have a dent on the inside corresponding to where the handle comes out. Look at an average plastic plant watering can and you see the same principle!

Also slipcast will never have such crisp details.

The rest is just experience of having seen a fair lot of both making methods.
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Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:26 am

@Mark-S
This pot could be green label era.

Seam lines on these decorative designs are the norm for F1/F2 so It doesn’t indicate your pot is slip cast. Here is one example of it on an authentic green label pot.
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