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Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:04 pm

Chadrinkincat wrote:
Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:52 pm
DailyTX

Ill post more photos once I clean it. Seems like the previous owner kept in in a moldy basement.

What size is that pot? The proportions seem a bit odd to me.
@Chadrinkincat maybe it's the angle and lighting, not much sunlight today. Here's an another photo with indoor lighting, and a photo next to the YuHuaLong pot I adopted from you a few years ago. I estimated the pot is about 200-220 ml.
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Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:33 pm

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steanze sounds messy
haha nothing that isn't public
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Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:13 pm

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Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:19 pm
Of course I have thoughts but I am not really interested in commenting on his pots - he knows why.
No, that only makes one of us. I’m not petty enough to know what grudge you are harboring against me or others. I’m not keeping score.

I certainly have no grudge against you and as a general practice avoid holding grudges altogether.

Speaking from recent familial observations I have noticed that some people must hold grudges. If they forgave, what would be left?
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Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:25 pm

This discussion is going off-topic, better to go back to talking about teapots!
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Andrew S thank you for sharing this article. I was having hard time finding articles and resources about HK custom order pots, and Xiang Xing Cha Hang was one of them.

Chadrinkincat please share photos of your Xiang Xing Cha Hang pot once cleaning is done :)

For HK custom order pot, here is a pot with stamp H441786. Another type of HK custom order pot by 錦峰公司 if this is authentic. The clay looks like early 80s Heixingtu pot. So far with the information I read about, the number was the phone number of the company :lol: not sure if this is true. Anyone know more about this one?
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The grain of the clay looks beautiful, very nice pot. Yes, also to my knowledge it's the phone number :D there's some more information about the company here:


(although the video is mostly discussing a hongni sp)
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Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:00 am

steanze wrote:
Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:25 pm
This discussion is going off-topic, better to go back to talking about teapots!
I’d rather address this so it doesn’t continue to foul the air.

You said I know why you haven’t commented on my pots. I don’t. I have no realistic idea what I could have done to offend you.

There’s only one thing I can think of and you can’t possibly be so brittle that it would’ve hurt your feelings.

It’s not realistic that it would’ve created some grudge in a mentally healthy and emotionally secure individual.

Do you and I need to discuss this or will you let bygones be bygones?
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Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:10 am

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steanze wrote:
Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:25 pm
This discussion is going off-topic, better to go back to talking about teapots!
I’d rather address this so it doesn’t continue to foul the air.

You said I know why you haven’t commented on my pots. I don’t. I have no realistic idea what I could have done to offend you.

There’s only one thing I can think of and you can’t possibly be so brittle that it would’ve hurt your feelings.

It’s not realistic that it would’ve created some grudge in a mentally healthy and emotionally secure individual.

Do you and I need to discuss this or will you let bygones be bygones?
This is a channel about Yixing teapots, if you want to discuss that we can do it in PM. Sorry for the OT everyone!
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Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:26 am

steanze wrote:
Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:10 am
Baisao wrote:
Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:00 am
steanze wrote:
Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:25 pm
This discussion is going off-topic, better to go back to talking about teapots!
I’d rather address this so it doesn’t continue to foul the air.

You said I know why you haven’t commented on my pots. I don’t. I have no realistic idea what I could have done to offend you.

There’s only one thing I can think of and you can’t possibly be so brittle that it would’ve hurt your feelings.

It’s not realistic that it would’ve created some grudge in a mentally healthy and emotionally secure individual.

Do you and I need to discuss this or will you let bygones be bygones?
This is a channel about Yixing teapots, if you want to discuss that we can do it in PM. Sorry for the OT everyone!
Address it in public so it is transparent. You brought it up and therefore it is topical.

It’s all the more topical because people think you are an expert on the subject of antique Yixing teapots.

And if you haven’t realized it yet, your admission of withholding information creates an issue for you regarding your ability to remain impartial as an expert. How else might you be influenced?

Whatever I did to hurt your feelings was so trivial that not only can I not remember it but you cannot bear to mention it in public.

I was gracious in previous posts about this. I gave you an off ramp. I later asked you if you were going to let bygones be bygones but apparently you won’t.

What did I say that compelled you to behave this way and compromise your impartiality?
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Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:29 am

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Address it in public so it is transparent. You brought it up and therefore it is topical.

It’s all the more topical because people think you are an expert on the subject of antique Yixing teapots.

And if you haven’t realized it yet, your admission of withholding information creates an issue for you regarding your ability to remain impartial as an expert. How else might you be influenced?

Whatever I did to hurt your feelings was so trivial that not only can I not remember it but you cannot bear to mention it in public.

I was gracious in previous posts about this. I gave you an off ramp. I later asked you if you were going to let bygones be bygones but apparently you won’t.

What did I say that compelled you to behave this way and compromise your impartiality?
We're seriously OT here, maybe a mod needs to take a look at this... if the mods allow it you can make a special thread somewhere else and we can discuss it in public there :lol:
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Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:35 am

For my part, I'd also want this to go offline.

My view is that I consider anyone offering their opinion on this forum is doing just that, and no more. They're entitled to withhold their thoughts for whatever reason they want, and I have to rely upon my own judgment as to the weight to place on what they say.

After all, I'm not paying for it, they're not liable for it, and that's the nature of an online forum discussion.

But that is just my view.

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Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:42 am

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For my part, I'd also want this to go offline.

My view is that I consider anyone offering their opinion on this forum is doing just that, and no more. They're entitled to withhold their thoughts for whatever reason they want, and I have to rely upon my own judgment as to the weight to place on what they say.

After all, I'm not paying for it, they're not liable for it, and that's the nature of an online forum discussion.

But that is just my view.

Andrew
But you would expect someone presenting themselves as an expert to be impartial. His credibility is on the line because of his actions. And while you’re not paying, he is a vendor and some people are paying.
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Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:48 am

I always present accurate information to the best of my knowledge. I am under no obligation to provide information to everyone who asks.

The reason I do not comment on your pots is precisely to avoid this kind of interaction. My mistake for replying to @Chadrinkincat
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Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:52 am

My own view is that the issue here is personal, rather than something relevant to the topic. Perhaps (or, more likely, probably) we disagree on that categorisation.

Again, my own view is that no one here is under any obligation to disclose anything, and that that is how anyone reading their comments has to understand them.

I could be getting a commission for every tea that I recommend, which no one would know about. And if I were a vendor, I could refuse custom to anyone I wanted, just like if I were a vendor with a shop in a city.

But again, perhaps we disagree. And I think that the fact that we disagree is what suggests (at least to me) that it is not a topic for the forum.

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Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:10 am

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I always present accurate information to the best of my knowledge. I am under no obligation to provide information to everyone who asks.
If a customer failed to ask about a crack you knew about, by your rationale, it’s acceptable to not provide them with this important information. After all, your “under no obligation to provide information to everyone who asks.”

And if you didn’t like them for some petty reason, we have now established, they may never hear it from you.
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Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:15 am

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If a customer failed to ask about a crack you knew about, by your rationale, it’s acceptable to not provide them with this important information. After all, your “under no obligation to provide information to everyone who asks.”

And if you didn’t like them for some petty reason, we have now established, they may never hear it from you.
Of course I am responsible to disclose any known defects for anything I sell, even if you were the customer. I am not selling you your own teapot. I don't have any obligation to comment on it. You are trying really hard to build a case that isn't there. This is my last response to this stuff, then hopefully a mod will get us back on track.
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