Welcome to the forum!! This one looks plausible, but it is hard to tell for sure from these pictures because the white balance seems to be a bit off.PuErh_person wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:52 pmHi, this is my first post on this Forum!
I found really well loved (and large approx 720mL) Yixing teapot at a thrift store in Canada for $7!!!!! Anyhow, the clay is what I believe to be zini. I reached out to a renowned owner of a chinese tea shop in Vancouver and he said pot is from the 1960s or 70s. What are your thoughts on it? I am relatively new to the tea scene so I’d appreciate some feedback on this find!
Yixing
Thank you all for your input! I appreciate it a lot.
I'll just have to try it out. Whatever it is, I will be quite content if it helps me make good tea (: Would you have any tea recommendations for this clay/firing or is it hard to say? I did do a pour duration test yesterday and it was 11 seconds.
I'll just have to try it out. Whatever it is, I will be quite content if it helps me make good tea (: Would you have any tea recommendations for this clay/firing or is it hard to say? I did do a pour duration test yesterday and it was 11 seconds.
@PuErh_person
Maybe trying to take some photos outdoor with natural light. Also, a photo on the inside would help. Good luck
Maybe trying to take some photos outdoor with natural light. Also, a photo on the inside would help. Good luck
for $7.... it's a jackpot that's worth every single penny irregardless of which era it came from.PuErh_person wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:52 pmHi, this is my first post on this Forum!
I found really well loved (and large approx 720mL) Yixing teapot at a thrift store in Canada for $7!!!!! Anyhow, the clay is what I believe to be zini. I reached out to a renowned owner of a chinese tea shop in Vancouver and he said pot is from the 1960s or 70s. What are your thoughts on it? I am relatively new to the tea scene so I’d appreciate some feedback on this find!
Cheers!!
Theekje wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:34 pmHi
Last week I bought this pot through a Dutch classifieds platform. The vendor didn't know anything about it. Said it was from an inventory where it had been in a display cabinet. It wasn't that expensive and looked decent enough, so I decided to take a chance on it.
I asked on the Discord CommuniTea server and someone suggested that if it was f1 it might be green label Qing Shui Ni, but they weren't sure wether it was f1 at all.
I am really only a yixing newbie, so I'm not sure what to make of the pot. Would you be able to help me identify the age / type of clay used?
What is most important to me is that it will make tasty tea and that it is safe to use. I would be grateful for any info or recommendations at all.
- Size of pot in ml or oz = 90 ml
- Clay type = ?
- Firing temperature: ?
- If the pot is thin-walled, medium, or thick-walled = ?
- How long is the pour? = will test later
- What year/decade the pot was made? = ?
- If known, the craftsman or factory = ?
- What type of tea you make with it? = Open for recommendations
- What is the effect of the pot on tea? Why do you like to brew a certain tea in it, and what does it do for that tea? = Can't tell yet
- Size of pot in ml or oz = 90 ml
- Clay type = Most likely a ZiSha blend... @steanze was pretty spot on abt the clay.
- Firing temperature: no idea.... this you'll need the skilful eyes of @Youzi.
- If the pot is thin-walled, medium, or thick-walled = you'll need to take a measurement. It's almost impossible for any of us to even guess the thickness of the wall.
- How long is the pour? = will test later.... yes please!
- What year/decade the pot was made? = Looks pretty recent.... my guess is at best it's late 90s... could be Y2K.
- If known, the craftsman or factory = IMHO, @Chadrinkincat and @Bok were spot on about the lid. My guess is it's a lid from another pot.
- What type of tea you make with it? = any tea you like to drink.
- What is the effect of the pot on tea? Why do you like to brew a certain tea in it, and what does it do for that tea? = Please share with us your Aha! moments with this pot.
@Theekje, my very unrefined replies refers... hahahahaha...... COVID lockdown getting on my tea nerves... LOL....
Cheers!!
I'm curious about the chaotic/disorderly seal Jingxi Hui Mengchen Zhi (荊溪惠孟臣製) seen on some F1 pots. E.g. this one that was posted here last year.
This article suggests F1 used this stamp between 1978-83, originally on the order of a Hong Kong merchant. So green label period, if this is true. Which seems to square with most listings I've seen. The article also suggests that the quality of the clay used in these pots is nothing out of the ordinary, and that their value comes mainly from the narrative/story conveyed by the seal and the pots' relative rarity. (Many of the ones I've seen with this seal are - or are claimed to be - qingshuini.) The article goes on to suggest that 9/10 of these supposedly F1 green label pots are 90s imitations and that real ones typically go for TWD 10k-20k (~USD 360-720). Which seems like a lot for green label stuff with unexceptional clay and craftsmanship.
Does anyone know more about this seal, and/or whether or not the claims of the article (the origin, the limited F1 use in green label period, the current value, or anything else) are true?
This article suggests F1 used this stamp between 1978-83, originally on the order of a Hong Kong merchant. So green label period, if this is true. Which seems to square with most listings I've seen. The article also suggests that the quality of the clay used in these pots is nothing out of the ordinary, and that their value comes mainly from the narrative/story conveyed by the seal and the pots' relative rarity. (Many of the ones I've seen with this seal are - or are claimed to be - qingshuini.) The article goes on to suggest that 9/10 of these supposedly F1 green label pots are 90s imitations and that real ones typically go for TWD 10k-20k (~USD 360-720). Which seems like a lot for green label stuff with unexceptional clay and craftsmanship.
Does anyone know more about this seal, and/or whether or not the claims of the article (the origin, the limited F1 use in green label period, the current value, or anything else) are true?
Yes, that type of seal is used in green label pots. It is not particularly rare. The qingsuini pots with that seal have pretty good clay in my opinion, although not as good as some earlier F1 zini and some ROC zini. The estimate that 9/10 are replicas is optimistic in my opinion, at this point the ratio of replicas is even higher... 360-720usd seems too high for those pots. I won't say what I think about the one in the link because of the policy on commenting only on member-owned pots... @OCTO has good eyesBalthazar wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:34 amI'm curious about the chaotic/disorderly seal Jingxi Hui Mengchen Zhi (荊溪惠孟臣製) seen on some F1 pots. E.g. this one that was posted here last year.
This article suggests F1 used this stamp between 1978-83, originally on the order of a Hong Kong merchant. So green label period, if this is true. Which seems to square with most listings I've seen. The article also suggests that the quality of the clay used in these pots is nothing out of the ordinary, and that their value comes mainly from the narrative/story conveyed by the seal and the pots' relative rarity. (Many of the ones I've seen with this seal are - or are claimed to be - qingshuini.) The article goes on to suggest that 9/10 of these supposedly F1 green label pots are 90s imitations and that real ones typically go for TWD 10k-20k (~USD 360-720). Which seems like a lot for green label stuff with unexceptional clay and craftsmanship.
Does anyone know more about this seal, and/or whether or not the claims of the article (the origin, the limited F1 use in green label period, the current value, or anything else) are true?
To my knowledge that's correct. Unless you consider the internal "ting ji" marks as artist chops
Well, that 70s HongNi is really nice I have to admit. Tried it with a couple of teas now, but I guess due to size and flavour yancha really feels like the most reasonable long term use...
Got a nice (current) Zhuni pot for sheng... but I wouldn't mind that in the HongNi pot either if it was bigger :')
Got a nice (current) Zhuni pot for sheng... but I wouldn't mind that in the HongNi pot either if it was bigger :')
Zhuni for sheng, interesting choice. What made you match them?kekstee wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:32 pmWell, that 70s HongNi is really nice I have to admit. Tried it with a couple of teas now, but I guess due to size and flavour yancha really feels like the most reasonable long term use...
Got a nice (current) Zhuni pot for sheng... but I wouldn't mind that in the HongNi pot either if it was bigger :')