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I will study this Facebook group more soon. Thanks for the advice.
I don’t know of groups or online resources for antique pots. Books are probably your best bet or old catalogs from respectable auction houses.Mark-S wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 4:37 pmAnd this one comes even closer: https://m.facebook.com/100004608287314/ ... 990308552/
Very useful group
Do you by any chance know a group that shows/sells genuine antiques? Then I could do a side by side comparison.
)) see the level of sophistication?@Mark-S
@Mark-SChadrinkincat wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 6:36 pmI don’t know of groups or online resources for antique pots. Books are probably your best bet or old catalogs from respectable auction houses.Mark-S wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 4:37 pmAnd this one comes even closer: https://m.facebook.com/100004608287314/ ... 990308552/
Very useful group
Do you by any chance know a group that shows/sells genuine antiques? Then I could do a side by side comparison.
I’d suggest shelling out $2k for an authentic pot from ZAG instead looking for $250 antiques on eBay. Or you could just buy something from Bok.
There's no Lao Zhuni or Lao Duanni, from the perspective of yixing ores.Teachronicles wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 12:51 amWow, it's been a long time since I last posted, I've missed a lot! I had a discussion earlier and this question came up. Are "lao zhuni" and "lao duanni" specific types of those two clays from LQER and earlier, or is any duanni or zhuni from that era considered "lao"? Was there just regular zhuni and duanni in that time period?
What kind of new designs are you thinking about? If you look at @OCTO's teapot from another thread, that's quite contemporaryhopeofdawn wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:26 amPossibly a weird question: when I look at yixing, I don't even really look at any claims of antique clay/pots/etc. because I don't have the expertise to assess those claims and it's not a priority for me. I much prefer modern pots with good craftsmanship/decent clay and visually appealing designs. No offense to the collectors out there--I know the classic designs are classics for a reason--but I'm not all that interested in collecting a large number of mostly-identical pots.
That said, does anyone have any recommendations for modern studios/pots producing interesting works? Ones that are working in the yixing tradition, but trying out new designs?
Pretty much anything that's not the traditional shui ping, shi piao, xi shi and the like--I'm not looking for a particular design (anymore) so much an interesting new takes on the classics, or just unique new shapes period. And I will admit there's a lot of wild and crazy stuff out there on Ebay, Taobao and the like; the problem becomes that there's no good way to tell if such pots were crafted well (in that they are comfortable to handle, have a clean pour, and retain the right amount of heat) or whether the clay has been adulterated. Short of buying them and taking my chances, anyway. That's why I was wondering if anyone had any studio recommendations.Youzi wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:45 amWhat kind of new designs are you thinking about? If you look at OCTO's teapot from another thread, that's quite contemporaryhopeofdawn wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:26 amPossibly a weird question: when I look at yixing, I don't even really look at any claims of antique clay/pots/etc. because I don't have the expertise to assess those claims and it's not a priority for me. I much prefer modern pots with good craftsmanship/decent clay and visually appealing designs. No offense to the collectors out there--I know the classic designs are classics for a reason--but I'm not all that interested in collecting a large number of mostly-identical pots.
That said, does anyone have any recommendations for modern studios/pots producing interesting works? Ones that are working in the yixing tradition, but trying out new designs?
Take a look at the teapots from ranked artists on Taohuren and Zisha.com to set your standards and see what the top masters are doing.hopeofdawn wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:12 amPretty much anything that's not the traditional shui ping, shi piao, xi shi and the like--I'm not looking for a particular design (anymore) so much an interesting new takes on the classics, or just unique new shapes period. And I will admit there's a lot of wild and crazy stuff out there on Ebay, Taobao and the like; the problem becomes that there's no good way to tell if such pots were crafted well (in that they are comfortable to handle, have a clean pour, and retain the right amount of heat) or whether the clay has been adulterated. Short of buying them and taking my chances, anyway. That's why I was wondering if anyone had any studio recommendations.Youzi wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:45 amWhat kind of new designs are you thinking about? If you look at OCTO's teapot from another thread, that's quite contemporaryhopeofdawn wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:26 amPossibly a weird question: when I look at yixing, I don't even really look at any claims of antique clay/pots/etc. because I don't have the expertise to assess those claims and it's not a priority for me. I much prefer modern pots with good craftsmanship/decent clay and visually appealing designs. No offense to the collectors out there--I know the classic designs are classics for a reason--but I'm not all that interested in collecting a large number of mostly-identical pots.
That said, does anyone have any recommendations for modern studios/pots producing interesting works? Ones that are working in the yixing tradition, but trying out new designs?
I am in a similar boat as you, at least for now. The old yixing pot market is too overwhelming so I rather support young artisans making interesting work (personally I go for more minimal contemporary, for example I found this and maybe it’s something of interesting for you too: https://txs-tea.com/collections/teapots ... xing-zisha). Perhaps we can keep each other updated with any of our finds?hopeofdawn wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 3:12 amPretty much anything that's not the traditional shui ping, shi piao, xi shi and the like--I'm not looking for a particular design (anymore) so much an interesting new takes on the classics, or just unique new shapes period. And I will admit there's a lot of wild and crazy stuff out there on Ebay, Taobao and the like; the problem becomes that there's no good way to tell if such pots were crafted well (in that they are comfortable to handle, have a clean pour, and retain the right amount of heat) or whether the clay has been adulterated. Short of buying them and taking my chances, anyway. That's why I was wondering if anyone had any studio recommendations.Youzi wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:45 amWhat kind of new designs are you thinking about? If you look at OCTO's teapot from another thread, that's quite contemporaryhopeofdawn wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:26 amPossibly a weird question: when I look at yixing, I don't even really look at any claims of antique clay/pots/etc. because I don't have the expertise to assess those claims and it's not a priority for me. I much prefer modern pots with good craftsmanship/decent clay and visually appealing designs. No offense to the collectors out there--I know the classic designs are classics for a reason--but I'm not all that interested in collecting a large number of mostly-identical pots.
That said, does anyone have any recommendations for modern studios/pots producing interesting works? Ones that are working in the yixing tradition, but trying out new designs?
