Yixing

[steanze]

During ROC they made pretty nice replicas of older pots (Ming - early Qing). Some of the artisans making them later became very famous. One of those pots would be worth thousands

[Mark-S]

@OCTO

I thought about that... and in my view it's a fake if someone (the seller or potter) is lying to me. For example, if it has a green label sticker but is not from that era. These pots I definitely would not use.

[steanze]

OCTO

I thought about that... and in my view it's a fake if someone (the seller or potter) is lying to me. For example, if it has a green label sticker but is not from that era. These pots I definitely would not use.

Interesting philosophical question. Does putting a seal with the name of a different potter count?

[OCTO]

I don't expect anything fancy, I just want to see if this pot has any warning signs that you guys may noticed such as chemicals and additives.

@DailyTX

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Allow me to be blunt here.... from my perspective, this pot is not a pure ZhuNi teapot. Firstly, the price does not point towards a pure ZhuNi pot. Then look at the red arrows, these are coating lines... This pot is coated with probably ZhuNi (yes, I have a few of these pots and they make good tea, price is also about the same). What's underneath that coat of paint I have no idea. Look at the green arrows, those tool marks are not consistent with tool marks that yells good workmanship!.. hahahaha...

The shop lady said she bought them 10 years ago... which is pretty accurate. These pots are commonly seen after Y2K where the craze for Pure ZhuNi and HongNi were at it's peak. High demand and limited supply created these pots that looks like Pure ZhuNi or HongNi.

Pls pardon my critiques... no intention to crack any pots... hahahaha....

Cheers!

[Mark-S]

@steanze

That's hard to say since it's a common practice. Lying about the clay or production method would count for me.

[OCTO]

OCTO

I thought about that... and in my view it's a fake if someone (the seller or potter) is lying to me. For example, if it has a green label sticker but is not from that era.

Awesome!... Now you have an internal guideline to benchmark your purchases. Be very alert, this practice is extremely rampant in the Yixing world. Just like what @steanze mentioned, question everything. @Bok also pointed out correctly to look into details. Very often, the worth is in the details. This was also pointed out in the FB link shared by @Chadrinkincat.

Cheers!

[Bok]

After all pots have been marked "Meng Chen" for over a century, certainly not made by Meng Chen himself

[Mark-S]

@OCTO

You mean this picture? I already checked the details.

[steanze]

steanze

That's hard to say since it's a common practice. Lying about the clay or production method would count for me.

Makes sense. Maybe "lying" not just in the sense of saying something false, but in the sense of saying something false with the hope to be believed

[steanze]

After all pots have been marked "Meng Chen" for over a century, certainly not made by Meng Chen himself

Yes that's what I was referring to

[OCTO]

OCTO

You mean this picture? I already checked the details.

COOL!!

[Bok]

OCTO

You mean this picture? I already checked the details.

So what are your conclusions then?

[Mark-S]

@Bok
To me the details look very similar.

[Bok]

Bok
To me the details look very similar.

Alright then...

[DailyTX]

I don't expect anything fancy, I just want to see if this pot has any warning signs that you guys may noticed such as chemicals and additives.

DailyTX



Allow me to be blunt here.... from my perspective, this pot is not a pure ZhuNi teapot. Firstly, the price does not point towards a pure ZhuNi pot. Then look at the red arrows, these are coating lines... This pot is coated with probably ZhuNi (yes, I have a few of these pots and they make good tea, price is also about the same). What's underneath that coat of paint I have no idea. Look at the green arrows, those tool marks are not consistent with tool marks that yells good workmanship!.. hahahaha...

The shop lady said she bought them 10 years ago... which is pretty accurate. These pots are commonly seen after Y2K where the craze for Pure ZhuNi and HongNi were at it's peak. High demand and limited supply created these pots that looks like Pure ZhuNi or HongNi.

Pls pardon my critiques... no intention to crack any pots... hahahaha....

Cheers!

@OCTO
Thank you for your insight, learned something about this pot. The pot is almost neutral on tea, I have only tried once to compare modern zhuni pots.