Yixing

[Bok]

@Mark-S I don’t think speed should be your concern on an eBay auction... you need to have your maximum that this pot is worth to you and go for that. Getting something as cheap as possible is a recipe for just that, getting cheap pots in all the senses of the word.

[Bok]

Daniel exaggerates, is the word I've heard.

Any specific examples? You're the first in this thread I've heard say that.

This exact pot was discussed on teachat awhile back. The consensus from knowledgeable people was that this is more likely from 90’s.

A bunch of his aged puerh has garnered negative feedback.

Suddenly what I just said makes perfect sense, old sticker on new pot

[pantry]

This exact pot was discussed on teachat awhile back. The consensus from knowledgeable people was that this is more likely from 90’s.

A bunch of his aged puerh has garnered negative feedback.

Suddenly what I just said makes perfect sense, old sticker on new pot

By the way, I found an antique teapot auction catalog with decent resolution images that may serve as good references.

Apology if it has already been posted or an old news.

Edit: link https://book.yunzhan365.com/tdrc/ajud/mobile/index.html

[Mark-S]

@pantry

That's cool, thanks I saved it as a pdf file. Who knows how long it's still available.

[Bok]

While we’re on it... and all the friends are out to play

[Bok]

This is my 70s F1 three friends with Golfball filter. A precious gift from a very good friend. The clay is superb, very fine Zisha, rarely as nice on factory pots.

[Mark-S]

@Bok

Wow, that's very nice craftsmanship

[Bok]

Bok

Wow, that's very nice craftsmanship

See now why people have been sceptical about yours? The devil is in the details...

[pantry]

pantry

That's cool, thanks I saved it as a pdf file. Who knows how long it's still available.

How did you manage to save it? I didn't see any export option

[Mark-S]

Bok

Wow, that's very nice craftsmanship

See now why people have been sceptical about yours? The devil is in the details...

There are also some confirmed ones that are very ugly... But yeah, I won't buy anything like that again.

@pantry

I downloaded the pictures in the highest resolution and merged them to a pdf file. I also got a similar catalog I photocopied recently. If you are interested in the files you can send me a private message. I think it could be illegal to post them here.

[Chadrinkincat]

@Bok
I can’t believe you also own one of these ugly pots.

@Mark-S @steanze

I have too much time on my hands. Supposed mid 70’s example of this pot some from early -late 80’s

https://m.facebook.com/groups/499515196 ... 8698226972


https://m.facebook.com/groups/499515196 ... 6098355566

[steanze]

Bok
I can’t believe you also own one of these ugly pots.

Mark-S steanze

I have too much time on my hands. Supposed mid 70’s example of this pot some from early -late 80’s

https://m.facebook.com/groups/499515196 ... 8698226972


https://m.facebook.com/groups/499515196 ... 6098355566

ok I am not convinced these are from the 70s

[OCTO]

Bok

Wow, that's very nice craftsmanship

See now why people have been sceptical about yours? The devil is in the details...

There are also some confirmed ones that are very ugly... But yeah, I won't buy anything like that again.

@Mark-S

As I've mentioned earlier, there is no reason to suspect or conclude that your 3Friends Pot is a fake. But what @Bok, @Chadrinkincat and others have mentioned is even amongst Factory1 pots, there are some potters that are more experienced and skilled who are seniors, and there will also be apprentices that are just starting their journey aspiring to be a successful teapot artist. Hence, you will get the same design of varying levels of workmanship. Back in the days when these pots were produced, there was no price differentiation between them. But in modern days, a well made pot from the hands of an artist will cost a lot more than one from a junior artist. It all comes back to your criteria and preferences in buying a pot. No right or wrong. I have friends who intentionally and knowingly collect fake / replica pots that are so well made, they even fooled the eyes of experienced collectors.

Cheers!

[Mark-S]

@OCTO

I have friends who intentionally and knowingly collect fake / replica pots that are so well made, they even fooled the eyes of experienced collectors.

Why do they do this? To learn the differences between the genuine and fake/replica teapots? Or just because they look good? But then you cannot be sure about the clay (if there are chemicals in it).

[OCTO]

OCTO

I have friends who intentionally and knowingly collect fake / replica pots that are so well made, they even fooled the eyes of experienced collectors.

Why do they do this? To learn the differences between the genuine and fake/replica teapots? Or just because they look good? But then you cannot be sure about the clay (if there are chemicals in it).

hahahaha..... which comes back to the question.... how do you classify a pot as fake?? There are many replicas out there which are made by senior artists who has access to quality Yixing clays. If the shape is a traditional shape.... almost every modern pot is a replica of the first pot! That's why the line is so so thin, it's as clear as how the individual buyer perceives it to be.

Personally, I have a few fake pots, my definition of a fake Yixing pot is the use of clay outside Yixing, which is very rampant these days. Most of them kills the tea that they brew. I buy them for educational purposes.

Cheers!