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Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:28 am

mafoofan wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:53 am
I ask one question about whether well-made lids should be perfectly level and get chastised for being too picky—in a world where folks happily debate the aesthetic merits of pouring and brushing water over pots to achieve an even patina. :)
Again, it comes back to personal preference. There is no absolute right or absolute wrong in this. Does a pot with leaky lid brew better than a pot with a perfectly fitting lid?? I don't recall any lid fittings that affected any of my brews... hahaha...

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Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:29 am

Tor wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:52 am
Re. pouring hot water over the pot, it shouldn’t be that complicated. Just brew the tea 4 different ways; no pouring, pouring after, pouring before, and pouring both before and after. If you don’t notice any difference, just don’t do it. But if you see the differences, choose the type of pouring according to the effect you aim for.

I give the taste and character of the tea my first priority, so I don’t mind any cosmetic outcome of the brewing method.
++1 :D :D
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:36 am

Mark-S wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:02 am
OCTO
Thanks for this comprehensive answer. And I really like your pots. I thought I would be the only one who often uses larger pots. :)
As the MCO lockdown is raging on.... more of my friends are coming out to play.

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Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:12 am

OCTO wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:28 am
Does a pot with leaky lid brew better than a pot with a perfectly fitting lid?
I have got a porcelain pot which drips a lot. It's because of the fancy design and not because the quality is bad. When I fill it to the top it will create a real mess what's very distracting. So, yeah, if the lid fit is really bad and you fill it to the top it can affect the brewing in my opinion. ;)
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:57 am

Mark-S wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:12 am
OCTO wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:28 am
Does a pot with leaky lid brew better than a pot with a perfectly fitting lid?
I have got a porcelain pot which drips a lot. It's because of the fancy design and not because the quality is bad. When I fill it to the top it will create a real mess what's very distracting. So, yeah, if the lid fit is really bad and you fill it to the top it can affect the brewing in my opinion. ;)
Here's something you can explore.... you have two options....

1. Refrain from filling the pot to the top. Try adjusting your brewing parameters until you reach your desired outcome.

2. Tweak a little. You can try servicing the lid's fit to reduce the leak. It's doable with very fine sandpaper. I do service some of my leaky pots to reduce the leak, though at times not 100% leak proof, but I'm a sucker for a smooth fit to the lid... hahahaha....

No harm exploring. Have fun.

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Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:21 pm

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Do you see? Do you see????? Losing my quarantine-addled mind.

Close-up of the clay:

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Lid fit:

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Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:32 pm

@mafoofan
Your pot looks really nice. :D
What fault are you talking about? I can't see it.

How's the natural patina development going on it?
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:45 pm

@mafoofan
Your pot looks absolutely stunning. Well, if you are not happy and would like to part with it, you know who to contact ;)

My lid actually wobbles a little more. I can see some light through the middle. But like I said, it didn't impact tea brewing, and I wouldn't have noticed if I didn't do a thorough inspection for your comparison. It's been great for me, and I hope you'll enjoy yours too :)
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:48 pm

Youzi wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:32 pm
mafoofan
Your pot looks really nice. :D
What fault are you talking about? I can't see it.

How's the natural patina development going on it?
There is a subtle “uplift” in the bottom rim of the lid. It is front and center in the photo above.

Then I realized it’s more obvious when the uplift is oriented on the side. Below, see the right side of the lid’s rim. It is slightly higher above the table than the left side. Pressed down at certain angles, you can feel some give, though short of an outright wobble.

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My teapot is ruined.
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:02 pm

I read that with zhuni teapots you had to pour water at the top to wake the pot up so you don't crack the pot with boiling water. I'm not sure if that is necessary with other types of clays. This is very confusing, but also you don't want to ruin your teapot. I haven't broken any of my gaiwans yet, but I've come close to them slipping out of my hands while cleaning them.
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:10 pm

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I haven't broken any of my gaiwans yet, ...
:shock: :shock: :shock:
I broke more than half of the gaiwans I purchased! Luckily, I didn't always break the same part, so they're all frankensteins now.

I had a nightmare breaking multiple Yixing pots last night. I was never so happy waking up :lol:

Back to your question, I heard that we're supposed to do that with all vessels. Particularly if you live in a colder climate (well, unless you have heater on). I've been too lazy to do it, but may want to start giving my teapot an initial water bath before the water is fully boiled.
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:21 pm

pantry wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:10 pm
klepto wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:02 pm
I haven't broken any of my gaiwans yet, ...
:shock: :shock: :shock:
I broke more than half of the gaiwans I purchased! Luckily, I didn't always break the same part, so they're all frankensteins now.

I had a nightmare breaking multiple Yixing pots last night. I was never so happy waking up :lol:

Back to your question, I heard that we're supposed to do that with all vessels. Particularly if you live in a colder climate (well, unless you have heater on). I've been too lazy to do it, but may want to start giving my teapot an initial water bath before the water is fully boiled.
That is a real nightmare, I've had friends attempt to manhandle my teaware. One in particular tried to use Dawn(tm) grease cleanser on one of my clay gaiwans. The gaiwan wasn't that expensive but daaamn I kinda snapped. You could hear me doing the movie sound, "Noooooooooooooooo...".
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:18 pm

mafoofan wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:48 pm
Youzi wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:32 pm
mafoofan
Your pot looks really nice. :D
What fault are you talking about? I can't see it.

How's the natural patina development going on it?
There is a subtle “uplift” in the bottom rim of the lid. It is front and center in the photo above.

Then I realized it’s more obvious when the uplift is oriented on the side. Below, see the right side of the lid’s rim. It is slightly higher above the table than the left side. Pressed down at certain angles, you can feel some give, though short of an outright wobble.

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My teapot is ruined.
Clay and craftsmanship look good on this pot.
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:39 pm

Chadrinkincat wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:18 pm
Clay and craftsmanship look good on this pot.
Even though the lid is poised to seesaw into oblivion?
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:53 pm

klepto wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:21 pm
That is a real nightmare, I've had friends attempt to manhandle my teaware. One in particular tried to use Dawn(tm) grease cleanser on one of my clay gaiwans. The gaiwan wasn't that expensive but daaamn I kinda snapped. You could hear me doing the movie sound, "Noooooooooooooooo...".
Whenever I had friends over (pre-COVID days) for tea/meals, I always insisted they do not do my dishes. They thought I was being a gracious host, but really I just didn't want people to touch my delicate wares :lol:
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