Yixing

[Mark-S]

Mark-S that pot is also clearly not old... to learn you need to have a look at confirmed antiques. The web is full of items labelled antique, while they are not.

So you would not trust this site? https://kknews.cc/zh-sg/collect/3ae5jpy.html

Someone here on teaforum.org or teachat.com used it as a reference. It's hard to know what can be trusted.

[Youzi]

@Mark-S

I hope these pots that you show us doesn't cost you too much, because I feel like you waste a lot of money on sub par teapots.

If you want to learn about what is good clay and what is a good yixing teapot, I'd advise you to look for pots before the 1980s and after 2017 and skip the in-between era. You won't find too much good stuff in that era, unless you are looking for tuition fee teapots, which is also good, because it's important to know what is good and what is bad.

[Youzi]

Mark-S that pot is also clearly not old... to learn you need to have a look at confirmed antiques. The web is full of items labelled antique, while they are not.

So you would not trust this site? https://kknews.cc/zh-sg/collect/3ae5jpy.html

Someone here on teaforum.org or teachat.com used it as a reference. It's hard to know what can be trusted.

When you look at these websites, you should always take them with a grain of salt. When I do my research about yixing on the Chinese web, I usually look at at least 30-50 sites and articles about a topic.

And see what seems to be the consensus and pro-contra arguments. The pictures I trust the least. Or for example the article you linked talks about different seals, so having all photos authentic might not be the focus of it. Don't take everything at face value, always at least quadruple check everything if it's possible.

[Bok]

Mark-S that pot is also clearly not old... to learn you need to have a look at confirmed antiques. The web is full of items labelled antique, while they are not.

So you would not trust this site? https://kknews.cc/zh-sg/collect/3ae5jpy.html

Someone here on teaforum.org or teachat.com used it as a reference. It's hard to know what can be trusted.

You can not base your judgement on one picture. That pot from that angles doesn’t look right to me. And we don’t know who is the author of this site and how much they know. I prefer to rely on real life experts I can talk to and touch their teapots (which of course is a privilege I have).

[Chadrinkincat]

@Mark-S
Post some pictures once it arrives.

This looks like modern pot.

[Mark-S]

@Youzi
This pot was not cheap but the seller generously agreed to cancel the purchase. I think eBay is the wrong place to look for antiques, especially if you are not an expert. I have seen good antiques on eBay, but they are too expensive for me. For example, this set: https://www.ebay.com/itm/202895990869

If you want to learn about what is good clay and what is a good yixing teapot, I'd advise you to look for pots before the 1980s and after 2017 and skip the in-between era. You won't find too much good stuff in that era, unless you are looking for tuition fee teapots, which is also good, because it's important to know what is good and what is bad.

It's hard to know if they are from the 70s or 80s, even if you find them in catalogues. Pots from the 60s or earlier I cannot afford and I do not want to pay $500 or more for a standard style pot. I think the next purchase will be a modern custom made pot. However, I am still waiting for two F1 pots to arrive (one of them you can see below).

@Bok
I have seen some pots with a similar clay and seal, and the collectors on the internet labeled them antiques. Probably, they were also fake pots then. I will stop looking for antique pots now. It's too hard to find any for little money in the West.

@Chadrinkincat
Thanks for your estimation.

[DailyTX]

Here are two photos of the pot

Wow! That’s the first time I see something like this! Also sloppy arrangement of the holes. But as we said, easy to fix!

@Bok
Are those two holes perfect for a staple to add some flavor to the pot?

[DailyTX]

Mark-S that pot is also clearly not old... to learn you need to have a look at confirmed antiques. The web is full of items labelled antique, while they are not.

So you would not trust this site? https://kknews.cc/zh-sg/collect/3ae5jpy.html

Someone here on teaforum.org or teachat.com used it as a reference. It's hard to know what can be trusted.

@Mark-S
Website is a good resource to learn which we have the privilege to access in the modern day; however, ceramic works have been replicated in China for hundreds of years for various reasons. Many “seniors” in this forum, teachat, and encounters in real life have all agreed on is read and learn more, once you acquire the knowledge, then slowly collect sample, afterward refine your collection. If you have a real life mentor like people Bok can access, the journey is easier. If not, it’s like learning to be a doctor by reading books. An example with the pot I posted with 2 holes. It’s also from eBay. The pot has many features of exported yixing to the west around 1890-1900; however, I still keep in mind that such pot was also heavily replicated in the 90s based on articles I read. I think of eBay is like a gamble, the more you know the higher chance of winning but never 100% guaranteed

[Mark-S]

Bok
Here are two photos of the pot

Could you please take a picture of the outside? Would be interesting to see the design.

[DailyTX]

Bok
Here are two photos of the pot

Could you please take a picture of the outside? Would be interesting to see the design.

Here you go @Mark-S
outside doesn't tell much

[Youzi]

Youzi
This pot was not cheap but the seller generously agreed to cancel the purchase. I think eBay is the wrong place to look for antiques, especially if you are not an expert. I have seen good antiques on eBay, but they are too expensive for me. For example, this set: https://www.ebay.com/itm/202895990869

That pot is awesome. That I'd say is worth collecting
A masterfully made Zini/Duanni? Full hand teapot. Not sure, because of the dirt.

[Mark-S]

@DailyTX
Thanks, I was just interested in the design which is very common. There are dozens of this pot on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254522460751
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133348730851
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133347189897
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293469373429
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193354968163
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/254509621799
https://www.ebay.de/itm/293291343733
https://www.ebay.de/itm/264663827837
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/202926821314
https://www.ebay.de/itm/153816860364

@Youzi
Yeah, but way too expensive for me.

[DailyTX]

DailyTX
Thanks, I was just interested in the design which is very common. There are dozens of this pot on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254522460751
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133348730851
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133347189897
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293469373429
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193354968163
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/254509621799
https://www.ebay.de/itm/293291343733
https://www.ebay.de/itm/264663827837
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/202926821314
https://www.ebay.de/itm/153816860364

Youzi
Yeah, but way too expensive for me.

@Mark-S
Out of all the links you found, I think I would only bet on 2 of them. It's just a bet because it's hard to tell based on photos, and some sellers purposely take blurry photos. Now the question is what's your comfort level to bet?

[Mark-S]

@DailyTX

I would not bet on these pots, but if they were on my wishlist... maybe. Depends on the price and how much I want them.

[DailyTX]

DailyTX

I would not bet on these pots, but if they were on my wishlist... maybe. Depends on the price and how much I want them.

@Mark-S
Very true, there’s always something that attracts us to gambling pots