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Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:05 am

@Mark-S Consider this...
If it takes the potter 3-4 hours (a reasonable time I'd say) to make and paint the cup, then the price should at least be 30-40 dollars to cover a western minimum wage!
That is not covering taxes, vendor premiums, material costs and failed pieces.

So I'd say the price for those cups is reasonable. Artists deserve to be paid well... though that does mean that pieces that are handmade for reals will cost quite a bit.
Same goes for modern yixing if I understand correctly. The time it takes to produce a teapot governs most of the price (masters tend to produce only a few pots in a month, thus prices of 500 usd+, so they can cover living expenses).
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:14 am

@carogust
I do not think that an artist works that long on a single cup, but I am no artist. :lol: If that's true the price is reasonable.
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:17 am

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carogust
I do not think that an artist works that long on a single cup, but I am no artist. :lol: If that's true the price is reasonable.
I am not sure either, but the work can be way slower than you imagine.
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:34 am

@Simniak

The pots sold by GTH are from the same supplier which chanting pines and previously EOT used.

It's a studio Wu Xing Shan Fang (五行山房) lead by Master Zhou Qi Kun 周其坤 (rank 3) and his wife Chen Ju Fang 陳菊芳 (To my knowledge unranked, but not all potters pursue ranking)

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Thanks for the blog link. Found many interesting stuff there. :D
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:41 pm

What do you think about this pot? In my city just for 140 dollars. Vendor just said it is from 90s. Because of the line inside opposide handle I think maybe full handmade? Any info appreciated please
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:51 pm

Simniak wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:41 pm
What do you think about this pot? In my city just for 140 dollars. Vendor just said it is from 90s. Because of the line inside opposide handle I think maybe full handmade? Any info appreciated please
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@Simniak
I would believe it’s 90s onward yet hard to tell which era aside from. The stamp on the bottom is a replica of a studio in the Republic of China period, 福记。 The clay texture looks like 梨皮 style, but it’s zini. Do you see small particles of various colors in the clay? Such as iron (black dots), mica (white), and some other ones that’s commonly found in zini?
As for “full hand-made”, just a line is one of many indications yet that line can be fake. The potter can add a strip of clay to make it looks like a line prior to firing.
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:02 pm

@DailyTX
I saw few black dots.
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:15 pm

@Simniak the line looks more like an attempt to make a fake pot look older. The shiny clay is another indication that this pot isn’t kosher...
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:31 pm

@Simniak

Agree w/ Bok on this pot.

Yahoo JP auction and a few eBay sellers from JP, China and TW sell pots just like this. Likely not handmade and probably newer than 90’s.
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:42 pm

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DailyTX
I saw few black dots.
Nowadays they can and do imitate those as well. Also same with those dots on porcelain, I can not count the instances where I saw people(private and shops) happily post their "Qing and Ming" antique cups on IG... one look and I know they are all fake...
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:10 pm

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Simniak wrote:
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DailyTX
I saw few black dots.
Nowadays they can and do imitate those as well. Also same with those dots on porcelain, I can not count the instances where I saw people(private and shops) happily post their "Qing and Ming" antique cups on IG... one look and I know they are all fake...
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What I had in mind was not to use to date the pot's age, but I was curious to see if the clay has any minerals that commonly found in Zini. I think we all concluded that it's a modern pot. Now the second question, is this even zisha? The shine on the pot, lack of diverse particles, and it doesn't have evidence of sand, it's hard to say if this is even zisha.
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:20 pm

How would you try to remove glue from Yixing teapots? Nail polish remover obviously isn't a good idea. I boiled the pot already, but it did not work.
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:21 pm

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How would you try to remove glue from Yixing teapots? Nail polish remover obviously isn't a good idea. I boiled the pot already, but it did not work.
What kind of glue? Sometimes you need to boil a few times and for longer periods. If it's some industrial glue, well then all bets for safe removal are off...
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:27 pm

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What kind of glue? Sometimes you need to boil a few times and for longer periods. If it's some industrial glue, well then all bets for safe removal are off...
Maybe it is super glue, I do not know. It's on the bottom of the teapot. No idea how it got there. Can I use isopropyl alcohol to clean it?
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