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Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:09 pm

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That's really Hongni? Maybe it is hard to see on the photo. I took a new one with my smartphone. Hopefully, it is good enough. The clay looks different, but there are no brush strokes or signs of dipping.

Yeah, this topic ist really confusing. :lol: Do you have an example for the "wrinkles from the shrinkages"? I have read this before, but I did not see it on any pots.
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I could be wrong but this looks like a well done example of nzwh w/ light reddish clay inside. Grainy texture of lid rim doesn’t look like hongni to me.

Similar look to this one.
Imo the texture on the inside of the lid of Mark'S's pot is too fine to be neizi. Also considering the number stamp I'd say it's a early 80s batch of hongni, which had a slightly duller/browner color than the hongni from the 70s. The surface of the inside of the lid of the pot on your instagram looks more like mandarin peel, while Mark-S's looks more like fine sand.
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:30 pm

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Ya, 500$ for an 80s pot is extremely high! Kind of disproportionate in my opinion, when they also offer LQER for <only> double...
I inquired about a one of their smaller zhuni pots and to see if they had plans to restock and smaller pots from this era. Not sure what clay the other two pot are but all three are SGD4000 or roughly $3000 US. I suspect that $1000 zhuni pot that was talked about awhile back was either a fluke or an error in calculating the exchange rate.
I wonder if their zini pot may be cheaper based on more people going after antique zhuni
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:53 pm

@steanze
You might be right on this pot since you know far more about the specifics of clay etc.

The point with my IG post is that not all nzwh pots have high contrast between inner and outer colors.

This interior clay on this nzwh pot is very similar to what I’m seeing on mark-s pot. https://m.facebook.com/teckcheng.khoo/p ... dp=1&mdf=1
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Probably true about the zini pots. I’ll have to inquire about some of their zini pots when they update their selection. This is how high ticket yixing purchases happen though.😂

I vaguely remember the $1000 zhuni having a flea bite which might explain part of the drastic price difference between these other ones. while demand/quality for these specific pots accounts for rest.
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:04 pm

Chadrinkincat wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:27 pm
Bok wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:32 am
Ya, 500$ for an 80s pot is extremely high! Kind of disproportionate in my opinion, when they also offer LQER for <only> double...
I inquired about a one of their smaller zhuni pots and to see if they had plans to restock and smaller pots from this era. Not sure what clay the other two pot are but all three are SGD4000 or roughly $3000 US. I suspect that $1000 zhuni pot that was talked about awhile back was either a fluke or an error in calculating the exchange rate.
Could well be, another Zhuni in 60ml I inquired a while back was around 2000$. But that is about the right price for antique Zhuni these days...
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:26 pm

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Not sure I could justify spending $2k on single pot and definitely not anywhere near $3k for a tiny 50-60ml that likely wouldn’t see much use.
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Not sure I could justify spending $2k on single pot and definitely not anywhere near $3k for a tiny 50-60ml that likely wouldn’t see much use.
That is what I thought as well, but it is good to know what the market realities are to manage expectations...
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Bok wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:30 pm
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:26 pm
Not sure I could justify spending $2k on single pot and definitely not anywhere near $3k for a tiny 50-60ml that likely wouldn’t see much use.
That is what I thought as well, but it is good to know what the market realities are to manage expectations...
Since we are at the pricing topic, what’s a fair price for a ROC zini pot and Qing period zini pot?
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:25 pm

DailyTX wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:09 pm
Bok wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:30 pm
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:26 pm
Not sure I could justify spending $2k on single pot and definitely not anywhere near $3k for a tiny 50-60ml that likely wouldn’t see much use.
That is what I thought as well, but it is good to know what the market realities are to manage expectations...
Since we are at the pricing topic, what’s a fair price for a ROC zini pot and Qing period zini pot?
:)
I'd say anywhere in between 700-1000+ depending on style and quality.
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Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:27 am

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Bok wrote:
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That is what I thought as well, but it is good to know what the market realities are to manage expectations...
Since we are at the pricing topic, what’s a fair price for a ROC zini pot and Qing period zini pot?
:)
I'd say anywhere in between 700-1000+ depending on style and quality.
Cool, not too far from what I had imagined. Also, the maker/artist probably add to this based price
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Cool, not too far from what I had imagined. Also, the maker/artist probably add to this based price
In that case more like the workshop that made it, seal or without, etc.
If the person who made it is known, then the price is likely significantly higher :lol:
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Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:46 am

I do not know about you, but I like these dragon style teapots. :lol: This is a new (cheap) acquisition. I don't know the clay or age. The pot was used before, since there were still tea leaves in it. I hope it is safe to drink from it. It definitely needs a proper cleaning first.
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Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:52 am

Mark-S wrote:
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I do not know about you, but I like these dragon style teapots. :lol: This is a new (cheap) acquisition. I don't know the clay or age. The pot was used before, since there were still tea leaves in it. I hope it is safe to drink from it. It definitely needs a proper cleaning first.
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Can you take pictures of the inside? Bottom of the pot, wall where handle is attached, and wall where decorations are attached?
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Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:06 am

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Of course, I hope the quality is good enough.
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