what do you think of this Zhuni?

[Brent D]

Ive been planing to add a zhuni (non modern) to my collection. I usually wait for pots to drop into my lap, but today I decided to see if I could find one. I came across this. Trusted vendor and the clay looks right to my relatively novice eye. Id like to know your opinion.
Thanks

http://www.sampletea.com/product/1970s- ... apot-120ml

[.m.]

From what i heard other saying, no zhuni teapots were produced in factory 1.... Should be 90's or later... Vendor not so trusted...

[steanze]

From what i heard other saying, no zhuni teapots were produced in factory 1....

that is correct. The pot is clearly a fake.

[Chris418]

Not to defend the vendor but for the pot we're talking, the vendor didn't talk about a factory 1 pot...

IMO the clay looks nice but maybe not from 70's. It is pricey i think.

Chris.

[Elise]

I also think it is a high price for a teapot with little but obvious defaults in the shape/symmetry.

[Chadrinkincat]

Not to defend the vendor but for the pot we're talking, the vendor didn't talk about a factory 1 pot...

IMO the clay looks nice but maybe not from 70's. It is pricey i think.

Chris.

70's or older? That sorta implies it's F1.

[steanze]

70's or older? That sorta implies it's F1.

That is also correct. In the 1970s all Yixing pots were produced by Factory 1. There's no such a thing as a 1970s non-Factory 1 yixing pot.

[Chi-Lin Lu]

This is not F1 and 70s' pot. This shape and seal belongs to late Qing to early ROC, but the workmanship and clay is modern.

[Brent D]

Thanks for the heads up folks. I thought this was a trusted vendor.
The search continues.

[peacener]

sampletea was where I pretty much began my tuition. while they have had good pots in the past, never have they sold an authentic old zhuni pot. Most are modern 2000+ date made.

If you are near Hastings, MN, maybe we can arrange a future tea date and you can see in person real lao zhuni...

Best of luck in your hunt!

[Brent D]

sampletea was where I pretty much began my tuition. while they have had good pots in the past, never have they sold an authentic old zhuni pot. Most are modern 2000+ date made.

If you are near Hastings, MN, maybe we can arrange a future tea date and you can see in person real lao zhuni...

Best of luck in your hunt!

im in Milwaukee. Off I’m ever that way, I’ll hit you up.
So, where can you buy the real thing?

[Chadrinkincat]

So, where can you buy the real thing?

Your best chance of finding real zhuni is probably gonna be through a private collector in Asia. Its prob gonna cost more than $500 since the real thing would be made prior to 1958. Anything newer than that is fake or modern zhuni which is not the same thing. Honestly I'd suggest just buying a nice thin walled hong ni pot from 60-70 instead unless you already have a few.

[Brent D]

Ya, I do have a few older hongni. Looking to take it to the next level

[steanze]

Ya, I do have a few older hongni. Looking to take it to the next level

Lao zhuni pots were made during Qing and ROC. Also within lao zhuni there are variations in quality But if you can find a real one for $500 let me know More likely that you'll pay at least $800-1000+ , depending on condition, clay, and level of craftsmanship. Also note that because of the high contraction rate and difficulty of controlling temperature in the old kilns, many Qing zhuni pots have relatively loose-fitting lid. So it will require a bit of extra gongfu, for aged puerh I think that's still manageable, for yancha it can get a bit tricky.

[Brent D]

Ya, I do have a few older hongni. Looking to take it to the next level

Lao zhuni pots were made during Qing and ROC. Also within lao zhuni there are variations in quality But if you can find a real one for $500 let me know More likely that you'll pay at least $800-1000+ , depending on condition, clay, and level of craftsmanship. Also note that because of the high contraction rate and difficulty of controlling temperature in the old kilns, many Qing zhuni pots have relatively loose-fitting lid. So it will require a bit of extra gongfu, for aged puerh I think that's still manageable, for yancha it can get a bit tricky.

Thanks. Cost isn’t the issue. Finding one for sale is.