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steanze
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:04 am

Bok wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:06 am
A sideways anecdote: recent price I saw here for a 60s Hongni Shuiping 12-cups. Asking price the equivalent of 1600USD!

M e n t a l .

I knew these large ones are sort of rare, but that price is not worth it. For that price I can get a nice antique instead...
yes those are steep. I might even consider selling mine at those prices :D
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:37 pm

@bliss and @Mark-S
I find the internet is only helpful on identifying chops that are fully written out in modern Chinese characters. I wish there is an App that decipher calligraphy. Here is a chop that I have been puzzling lately :lol:
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:40 pm

steanze wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:04 am
Bok wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:06 am
A sideways anecdote: recent price I saw here for a 60s Hongni Shuiping 12-cups. Asking price the equivalent of 1600USD!

M e n t a l .

I knew these large ones are sort of rare, but that price is not worth it. For that price I can get a nice antique instead...
yes those are steep. I might even consider selling mine at those prices :D
@steanze
You seem to have a rare collection of teawares. I am sure you will have an audience in this forum if you would like to let go one or two of your treasures :lol:
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:55 pm

Mark-S wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:55 am
Anybody who could translate this mark for me? It's my own pot. I'd like to find more information about it online, but so far I got nothing. :|

Update: Got it :) 祥華造鳳
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Show us the pot! :D
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:24 pm

Bok wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:06 am
A sideways anecdote: recent price I saw here for a 60s Hongni Shuiping 12-cups. Asking price the equivalent of 1600USD!

M e n t a l .

I knew these large ones are sort of rare, but that price is not worth it. For that price I can get a nice antique instead...
That sounds, well, steep. Saying that, I've been consistently surprised by how much the larger 60s pots tend to go for generally. I'm guessing it's due to the larger sizes being both rarer and preferred in Taiwan/Japan where most of them still live. Do you find sub-100ml pots are still less sought-after among tea drinkers in Taiwan? Might be a misbegotten notion of mine so wanted to ask.
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:29 pm

@DailyTX Yeah, this mark is definitely much harder to decipher. :lol:

@.m.

I'm afraid that you say that this is junk, hahaha. The teapot could be very old... or a nice replica in my opinion.

I love the carvings on this pot. They are very detailed and look almost like a painting. You can see hills, different trees, mountains, houses, bridges, clouds and even small boats and birds. :)

There are not many visible minerals in the clay. I don't know if this is a red flag for not being authentic. I thought that this level of purity could only be achieved with chemicals. But for this to judge, I am simply not experienced enough. Most teapots I own (most of them are likely from Factory 1) have more "imperfections" in the clay.
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:42 pm

DailyTX wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:37 pm
bliss and Mark-S
I find the internet is only helpful on identifying chops that are fully written out in modern Chinese characters. I wish there is an App that decipher calligraphy. Here is a chop that I have been puzzling lately :lol:
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Is this the larger size bamboo pot w/ black star zini?
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:45 pm

I’d take a hard pass on a $1600 60’s pot even in a rare size like that.

@Bok
Btw what is the going rate for 8cup (160ml) these days?
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:06 pm

Chadrinkincat wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:42 pm
DailyTX wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:37 pm
bliss and Mark-S
I find the internet is only helpful on identifying chops that are fully written out in modern Chinese characters. I wish there is an App that decipher calligraphy. Here is a chop that I have been puzzling lately :lol:
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Is this the larger size bamboo pot w/ black star zini?
@Chadrinkincat
:shock: how did you know it’s bamboo style. I am very impressed haha. Yeah, it’s about 200 ml black star clay. I’ll take a photo later if you would like to see the pot.

@Chadrinkincat
Update: Here is a photo of the bamboo pot. The one on the right hand side is the 200 ml one. Craftsmanship is not as fine as the little one (left one).
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:28 pm

@Mark-S I like the texture of the clay on that pot.
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:21 pm

@DailyTX

I almost snagged that pot but I couldn’t justify buying another bamboo pot.

@Mark-S
Not sure what that carved pot is but I actually like this one too. What is on the lid?
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:35 pm

@Chadrinkincat

Good to hear :) The lid is decorated with the Eight Trigrams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagua). I can show you more photos in about two weeks when I have cleaned the pot. It's quite heavy (600 grams) and the volume is 500ml. I've bought it from a German collector of Chinese porcelain. He told me that he purchased it from an antique dealer when he was in Vietnam in 2006. It cost me $5000. Just joking... it wasn't that expensive. :lol:

@DailyTX Very nice. This bamboo shape is one of my favorites. ;)
.m. wrote:
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Mark-S I like the texture of the clay on that pot.
Thanks!
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:50 pm

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Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:21 pm
DailyTX

I almost snagged that pot but I couldn’t justify buying another bamboo pot.

Mark-S
Not sure what that carved pot is but I actually like this one too. What is on the lid?
@Chadrinkincat
I see, in that case, you probably seen this chop to know it’s a square bamboo haha
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:02 pm

Chadrinkincat wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:45 pm
I’d take a hard pass on a $1600 60’s pot even in a rare size like that.

Bok
Btw what is the going rate for 8cup (160ml) these days?
I’ve no idea, as I haven’t been looking for these since a long time and there simple not many to be seen in the first place...

@MmBuddha not sure, smaller ones seem to be around in larger numbers, either because not popular in the past and overlooked (not now anymore, they do get popular), or made in larger quantities to begin with?
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:53 pm

Chadrinkincat wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:45 pm

Bok
Btw what is the going rate for 8cup (160ml) these days?
easily over $1k
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