What Pu'er Are You Drinking

Puerh and other heicha
vuanguyen
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:13 pm

Balthazar wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:10 am
vuanguyen wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:09 pm
It was labeled as Ming Feng Shan. Does anyone know where Ming Feng Shan is located? Hojo sells single tea trees but I don't think they are from famous area...otherwise, the price would have been astronomical.
There's a 鸣凤山 in or close to Lincang (Yongde). That's the only one I could find in Yunnan with a quick search (a couple others in Hunan). Will have to do a more through check later, the 2100m claim should help to narrow down the possibilities...

Edit:

Probably this one, see here
第八古茶园:鸣凤山古茶园,该茶园为大叶种乔木型古茶树,鸣凤山大叶种是省级群体良种,原产为永德明朗岩岸山鸣凤山村,采用茶籽育苗由人工种植形成,面积约有800亩,该茶园地处1900米的高山中,降水量1400毫米,气温16.8度,是党梨山自然保护区的延伸地,有90多年的历史。该茶园四周森林主要分布有松树,西南桦等树种。
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:29 pm

StoneLadle wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:38 pm
The boss says unlikely...

http://www.marshaln.com/2017/04/life-an ... of-a-tree/


So if this is true, then single tree puer is just a marketing gimmick and I should not trust Hojo or anyone who sell single tree puer?
Do many people share this view or only a few?

I now feel like a fool for buying 2kg of his single tree teas.

This is Hojo's webpage about his single tree teas:
https://hojotea.com/en/posts-213/
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:34 pm

vuanguyen wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:29 pm
StoneLadle wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:38 pm
The boss says unlikely...

http://www.marshaln.com/2017/04/life-an ... of-a-tree/


So if this is true, then single tree puer is just a marketing gimmick and I should not trust Hojo or anyone who sell single tree puer?
Do many people share this view or only a few?

I now feel like a fool for buying 2kg of his single tree teas.

This is Hojo's webpage about his single tree teas:
https://hojotea.com/en/posts-213/
I'd caution it is not unlikely per se that single tree teas are being made, just unlikely that it ends up in our baskets for anything less than an eye-watering price tag.
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:36 pm

vuanguyen wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:29 pm
StoneLadle wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:38 pm
The boss says unlikely...

http://www.marshaln.com/2017/04/life-an ... of-a-tree/


So if this is true, then single tree puer is just a marketing gimmick and I should not trust Hojo or anyone who sell single tree puer?
Do many people share this view or only a few?

I now feel like a fool for buying 2kg of his single tree teas.

This is Hojo's webpage about his single tree teas:
https://hojotea.com/en/posts-213/
I haven’t purchased puerh from Hojo, but I do mostly drink pu erh tea. I would find it hard to believe produce single tree, marketing to the west, and having some profit. If it’s a friend who owns a garden, and they have a special tree that they process privately and sharing among friends then it sound reasonable. I think a single garden instead a single tree maybe more realistic. Just my take on it as a buyer/puerh drinker
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:38 pm

It is considered as the most exclusive quality of all.
Quote from Hojo. Can not really relate this statement to what seems to me not a very high price.
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:14 pm

In particular, we only select specific tea trees that growing condition is ideal.
Quote from Hojo's page. Sounds like its not ONE tree but a specific type of tea tree
Quite misleading indeed...
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:07 am

selected tea produced only from one particular tea tree. In general, we get 2-4kg of tea from the each single tree.
This is pretty clear to me... your quote refers to how they select the individual trees in the first place. Still, without being very near the farms for most of the year, you can’t really be sure what you are getting.
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:46 am

Hojo is always confusing, you can't understand their logic unless you've been sprayed with pixie dust or hung out with Peter Pan :ugeek:
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:12 pm

Late 90’s Red Mark Sheng.

Tree top flyin’ 🌳

@treetime ¡Salud!
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:53 pm

EoT's 2020 Tian Men Shan GaoGan:
My session ran long and interrupted my local 5pm news(Yes, I admit I'm old now.) :(
Came back after 15 mins while it sat in a teapot. The leaves opened up much easier. Someone mentioned that leaving the leaves after the rinse opens them up better.
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:12 pm
Late 90’s Red Mark Sheng.

Tree top flyin’ 🌳

treetime ¡Salud!
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I love the whiskey+dark ruby red color. It sounds like a well aged sheng
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:26 pm

All this talk about danzhu had me dig out some teas for an experiment. Two danzhus & one typical multi-trees gushu. All 2019 Spring harvest. I don’t have the maocha version of the multi-trees, so will have to keep that in mind.

Honestly there’s not much difference between the two danzhus. Maybe one is more fragrant and has a slightly higher note. The pressed tea has a bit more astringency for sure :mrgreen:
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TeaTotaling wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:12 pm
Late 90’s Red Mark Sheng.

Tree top flyin’ 🌳

treetime ¡Salud!
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Sensational mouth watering stuff...

How did you brew this??...

90s tea are doing well in many cases now
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:14 pm

DailyTX wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:06 pm
TeaTotaling wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:12 pm
Late 90’s Red Mark Sheng.

Tree top flyin’ 🌳

treetime ¡Salud!
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TeaTotaling
I love the whiskey+dark ruby red color. It sounds like a well aged sheng
The color certainly reminded me of a finely crafted bourbon as well 🥃

A perfect pairing for the upcoming fall season here in the Ohio Valley 🍁 🍂
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:20 pm

2020 Spring Jingmai Miyun

Overall, I really enjoyed this tea. It tastes really nice as a young tea. It has a lot of high notes (mostly dry fruit) and enough bitterness to round it out, giving it body and decent mouthfeel. Huigan is good, but not exceptional. Cha qi is fine. My wife and I dont notice any disagreeable feels, lol.

The tea lasted about 9 good steeps. Not the longest lasting tea, but not terrible.

I dont know how it will age. I have no experience with this. I assume that a tea that tastes this good when its young, might not age well. It does have some bitterness and huigan that might hold up, but I'm guessing the high notes will fall off with age.
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Dry leaves in warm gaiwan smell amazing! Passion fruit/apricot. "Sheng" aroma.

2 quick rinses.

1st - Tea was very light with 5 second steep. Almost no flavor. Slightly disappointing based on the dry/wet aroma of leaves.

2nd- increased steep to ~20seconds. Strong stone fruit. Slight astringency. Moderate body (because of bitterness). Ok huigan.

3rd- a bit more bitterness. Easy drinking. Pretty good mouthfeel. Tip of tongue, rear roof of mouth, creeping into throat.

4th- had with lunch

5th- had with lunch

6th- returned to tea. Some bitterness remains. Middle part of the flavor profile is gone.

7th- bitterness decreasing. The sour note of spent tea is becoming the dominant note.

8th- Still drinkable. Longer steeps (45-60 second steeps are still pulling some good bitterness and sweetness.

9th- pretty much finished.

A few long 2-5 minute steeps. Gave up a little more, but not much.

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