Factory or Faketory?

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Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:20 pm

tingjunkie wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:40 pm

Pot #3: 65ml zini "Please Drink" teapot. Real or repro?:

Is that really Zini? The texture reminds me those special order dsq that eot often sell
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:24 pm

Prob fake since rim looks way too wide.
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:26 pm

ShuShu wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:20 pm
tingjunkie wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:40 pm

Pot #3: 65ml zini "Please Drink" teapot. Real or repro?:

Is that really Zini? The texture reminds me those special order dsq that eot often sell
I think it's suppose to be special red qsn mix
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tingjunkie
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:44 pm

I was just using zini as an umbrella term. To my eye it looks like a sandy QSN.
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:21 am

tingjunkie wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:44 pm
I was just using zini as an umbrella term. To my eye it looks like a sandy QSN.
I think #3 is real as well. Still not 100% on #1. :D
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:24 am

Real or not, these are some very nice pots you have ting. Cough cough paging steanze.
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:21 am

tingjunkie wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:41 pm
Brent D wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:34 pm
First one looks legit.
Second one is bogus
You sound pretty sure. Can you tell us what details lead you to those conclusions? I'm always trying to learn. :)
clay composition looks a little off to me.
By no means am I any sort of an expert.
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:31 am

I think all three are real now! I've never seen a shuiping with the same exact engraving as #3, but it's a really nice pot. First one looks like vintage clay
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:38 am

tealifehk wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:31 am
I think all three are real now! I've never seen a shuiping with the same exact engraving as #3, but it's a really nice pot. First one looks like vintage clay
agreed.
#2 still looks off to me though
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:47 am

Isn't the #3 please drink oolong series pot suppose to have a different base stamp?
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:09 pm

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Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:47 am
Isn't the #3 please drink oolong series pot suppose to have a different base stamp?
There were many versions, with different stamps. This is what Dr. Lu writes in his article on the Quin Yin series:
"In the 1970s, all the “Qing Yin” pots that we had studied are made of red clay (hong ni). Purple clay (zi ni) “Qing Yin” were made only from the 80s, and there are three base seals for this batch. One of them is similar to the 70s’ base seal, the other two seals are longer and narrower and can be divided into 22 or 23 character versions."

So I'd be guessing 90's repro? But very nice in any case.
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:24 pm

Pot #4: 90ml

Can anyone confirm which plant the engraving is supposed to be? An orchid?

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Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:25 pm

tingjunkie wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:24 pm
Pot #4: 90ml

Can anyone confirm which plant the engraving is supposed to be? An orchid?

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I'm gna say non factory 90s on this one.
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:37 pm

tingjunkie wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:24 pm
Pot #4: 90ml

Can anyone confirm which plant the engraving is supposed to be? An orchid?
Yes, orchid. The other three are plum blossom, bamboo and chrysanthemum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Gentlemen).
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:37 pm
Yes, orchid. The other three are plum blossom, bamboo and chrysanthemum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Gentlemen).
Thanks! Mine is the first Ive seen that has the extra items below the orchid. I'm guessing it's supposed to be rocks and grass?
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