Usually black yixing are either reduction fired (there are quite a few of these already during late Qing/early ROC) or manganese doped (usually from the 1980s onwards). I haven't seen the Mariage Frères one so I don't know which type it is...mbanu wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 5:20 pmOnce again not sure if this is the thread for it, but does anybody know what the story is behind black Yixing? Seeing one of Bok's very nice pots (which appears to be black) got me thinking about this. My only experience with black Yixing has been pots produced for the French tea company Mariage Frères -- in their case, they did this back when Yixing was less expensive as (I suspect) an homage to Wedgwood basaltware, but I don't know much about it otherwise. Checking my few Yixing books has not been helpful here. Does anyone have any ideas about it?
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Looks modern to me... the clay is a bit off for ROC, and the calligraphy is unusually poor for the period. Good call putting in a lower offer.Chadrinkincat wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 11:35 am
Either of you buy this pot? My first thought was ROC but wasn’t entirely certain so I put in lower offer. Needless to say someone else bought it 5min later.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/294171444371
+1steanze wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:23 pmUsually black yixing are either reduction fired (there are quite a few of these already during late Qing/early ROC) or manganese doped (usually from the 1980s onwards). I haven't seen the Mariage Frères one so I don't know which type it is...mbanu wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 5:20 pmOnce again not sure if this is the thread for it, but does anybody know what the story is behind black Yixing? Seeing one of Bok's very nice pots (which appears to be black) got me thinking about this. My only experience with black Yixing has been pots produced for the French tea company Mariage Frères -- in their case, they did this back when Yixing was less expensive as (I suspect) an homage to Wedgwood basaltware, but I don't know much about it otherwise. Checking my few Yixing books has not been helpful here. Does anyone have any ideas about it?
And the more iron, the darker the black will be, if reduction fired.
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@steanze Thanks for chiming in on this one. The poor carving definitely looked a bit odd to me too. Glad I went with my gut rather than hitting buy right away.
This kind of carved pots in different shapes and that period are a very popular topic for the forgers... a loooot of fakes.Chadrinkincat wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 8:06 pmsteanze Thanks for chiming in on this one. The poor carving definitely looked a bit odd to me too. Glad I went with my gut rather than hitting buy right away.
First of all, thanks to all for evaluating my new pot. 
2. Do you know since when filter baskets are used? I know that they were popular in the green label period for those huge pots some use to boil water. And I've also seen them a lot on what seem to be Nixing pots (screenshot attached).
2. Do you know since when filter baskets are used? I know that they were popular in the green label period for those huge pots some use to boil water. And I've also seen them a lot on what seem to be Nixing pots (screenshot attached).
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I don't know. They are very common in Germany and available for very little money. But I don't like the look of the clay though so I have not bought one.
You are welcome! Filter baskets are already used in late Qing/ early ROC. I haven't seen any examples that are older than that.Mark-S wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:53 amFirst of all, thanks to all for evaluating my new pot.
2. Do you know since when filter baskets are used? I know that they were popular in the green label period for those huge pots some use to boil water. And I've also seen them a lot on what seem to be Nixing pots (screenshot attached).
Mark-S wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 9:00 amTwo comparison photos with two common F1 pots and another picture of the inside (with flash).
I'm back!!.... hahahaha...... brutal truth told... I agree with the rest, the HanJun pot in the middle is missing it's original lid. Refer to the complete one on the left. I also agree to forget bout sending the lid for kitsugi.... don't waste your hard earned money.
Cheers!!
, but I'll keep it for now. At least the clay does not look suspicious under the microscope, and I like the flower carving. Maybe it's not that bad for tea.