Tea Knowledge & Friendship
I've been using a larger pot to brew green tea in the summerOCTO wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:50 am
The Square base is about 180cc and the other is smaller... about 150cc. These pots are small compared to the usual pots I use regularly for PuErh.
Larger pots give you a different experience all together. Bok recently posted some observations about brewing in larger pots.
Cheers!!
yes, it's a different experienceTeaTotaling wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:37 amMark-S This is amusing, but could be a rare coincidence nonetheless. The ZAG pot you like by Research-level senior craft artist-Ding Yaping is sold out!! Someone must have caught wind of all the talk and jumped on it..not a moment to lose, haha
I’ll still try to find out the selling price, so we can all know for certain.
Would be nice though if you could find out the price.$10,000...steanze wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:38 amHere is an example of his more creative and refined works, these I'd consider already more awesome
https://auction.artron.net/paimai-art5010280032/
And it's not to my taste. It looks like modern art.@Bok Do you know where you posted this?
The most popular teas in China are green teas, which also are better brewed in larger volumes.
The price is about right for a pot by a Senior Artist. Clay is good, Workmanship and strength of the bends are just right. This is where the artistic eye will appreciate the beauty of this pot. It's indeed a pot befitting it's price tag.
I did not mean that this pot is overpriced and bad. Just that it's quite expensive and does not meet my taste because it looks like modern art to me.
What do you think of the ergonomics of the pot? i have difficulty imagining it be a practical pot to use due to angle of the handle.
Beautiful pots and patina! Love the left pot—the carving reminds me of the monkey king’s crownOCTO wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:55 am
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TeaTotaling
Just sharing since we were discussing about staining in DuanNi.
Here are two 80s DuanNi pots I dedicate solely to aged Shou PuErh. It stained darker over time, but with proper care and attention, the patina and staining turned out pretty nice... hahahaha.... I would bring them out to use whenever I'm in the mood to use smaller pots. Both brews up a very decent cup of tea...
Cheers!
You are right
it *is* modern art. Above a certain price the key distinction is between decorative vs artistic objects. Is the work exploring new aesthetic ideas? Or is it just a repetition of a widely used design that does not add any innovative elements? The higher-priced items are usually the former.Yup... understand what you mean... I do agree not everyone appreciates this type of design. I too have certain designs that I just cannot comprehend what the potter was thinking or trying to convey... hahahaha... it happens!
@Teas We LikeTeas We Like wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:38 amYou are right
The artist is a Research Level Senior Master, that's rank 5, the highest rank one can get besides the Honorific Titles to Master. Teapots made by Rank 5 Masters go for 2-3k minimum in China, for "No-name" artists.Mark-S wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:17 amTeaTotaling wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:37 amMark-S This is amusing, but could be a rare coincidence nonetheless. The ZAG pot you like by Research-level senior craft artist-Ding Yaping is sold out!! Someone must have caught wind of all the talk and jumped on it..not a moment to lose, haha
I’ll still try to find out the selling price, so we can all know for certain.
Yes, these are the prices. It is important to distinguish however between more artistic creative designs made in small numbers, and standardized designs that such a craftsman could have done while working for F1.
It looks pleasing to the eyes but won't know how it feels until you hold them in your hands. Just like what @Teas We Like said, this is a modern artistic pot that might be destined as a decorative piece rather than a practical piece for brewing. Basically you are buying a sculpture which happens to be a teapot... hahahaha....
That's basically the "Glue" Clay (Clay with more water), which is used to connect parts of the body during the full hand process. If you can see it, then it's not done well, not hidden well by the artist. I have a video of it, but cannot upload here, so you just have to use your imagination.
Yeah, sure probably he was a "nobody" during the time he made that pot, but just because he is rank 5 now, suddenly the past works of the same artist just appreciates in price too. Kinda like the Early Works of famous painters. So as usual with these things the prices for named artist stuff just makes no sense for the Western Market, but in China teapot, just like housing and art, it's another investment scheme for the rich, which is the main reason for the sky high prices currently.
Yes - I think an early work could be interesting if it is the craftsman's own design and reflects in some way his artistic development. However, if it is a standardized design, it is more difficult to use it as a window into the artist's growth.Youzi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:59 am
Yeah, sure probably he was a "nobody" during the time he made that pot, but just because he is rank 5 now, suddenly the past works of the same artist just appreciates in price too. Kinda like the Early Works of famous painters. So as usual with these things the prices for named artist stuff just makes no sense for the Western Market, but in China teapot, just like housing and art, it's another investment scheme for the rich, which is the main reason for the sky high prices currently.
