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@Teachronicles Yes, indeed. I find 150ml to be quite useful, personally. My ideal session includes 8-10 grams of leaf, perfect for 150ml! I have another smaller Zhuni in consideration, but I really love this Zini as a whole. Who knows, maybe a Zhuni & Zini combo is in the works?!
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Tue May 19, 2020 8:37 pm

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This antique Zini really caught my eye as well! In current discussion, and hot pursuit, of this beauty. I personally love the middle ground qualities of Zini, as compared to other clays.
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Nice GongJu..... Agree with @Bok, GongJu era pots are a unique batch of Yixing pots like no other. The additional ornaments on the tip of the snout, lid knob and rim are often found in Copper, Silver or Gold. It's easy to identify signs of ageing with copper, but Silver and Gold is a little more tricky. Naturally, collectors will favour Copper than Silver or Gold. Many Silver and Gold additions are done at a later stage, usually to cover up some chips. Some collectors will go to the extend of removing the metal ornaments to determine the pot is not damaged or chipped.

Cheers!
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Tue May 19, 2020 8:42 pm

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Thanks! I haven’t committed to this one just yet. I have another red pot I might choose over this one. It is certainly very nice though. I would be curious to hear howChadrinkincat likes it!
I've not used 80s DuanNi extensively either. There is a batch of DuanNi in the 80s that stains really bad after use and literally renders the pot U-G.L-Y..... can't stand the sight of it. I usually dry "feed" them with tea and let them hibernate... hahahaha...

Cheers!
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Tue May 19, 2020 8:47 pm

OCTO wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 8:37 pm
TeaTotaling wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 2:25 pm
This antique Zini really caught my eye as well! In current discussion, and hot pursuit, of this beauty. I personally love the middle ground qualities of Zini, as compared to other clays.
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Nice GongJu..... Agree with Bok, GongJu era pots are a unique batch of Yixing pots like no other. The additional ornaments on the tip of the snout, lid knob and rim are often found in Copper, Silver or Gold. It's easy to identify signs of ageing with copper, but Silver and Gold is a little more tricky. Naturally, collectors will favour Copper than Silver or Gold. Many Silver and Gold additions are done at a later stage, usually to cover up some chips. Some collectors will go to the extend of removing the metal ornaments to determine the pot is not damaged or chipped.

Cheers!
Interesting insight, thank you!

Do you have any experience with 60's Yixing? With your knowledge and expertise, I feel like you might own one or two ;)
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Tue May 19, 2020 8:51 pm

OCTO wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 8:42 pm
TeaTotaling wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 8:14 pm

Thanks! I haven’t committed to this one just yet. I have another red pot I might choose over this one. It is certainly very nice though. I would be curious to hear howChadrinkincat likes it!
I've not used 80s DuanNi extensively either. There is a batch of DuanNi in the 80s that stains really bad after use and literally renders the pot U-G.L-Y..... can't stand the sight of it. I usually dry "feed" them with tea and let them hibernate... hahahaha...

Cheers!
I could see how this might be problematic, considering the very delicate color. It wouldn't bother me too much, as long as the performance of the clay is superior. Different strokes, for different folks :P
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Tue May 19, 2020 9:04 pm

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which brings me to the following:
i recently saw this advert posted from a local antique shop, and thought that the clay didn't look half bad; what intrigues me most is the metal (pewter?) fittings and the differing material handle/spout.

i'm wondering if you all have seen pots like this before, and am curious of what you all think about this piece in particular:
Yes I have in person. But the one I saw was old ZiSha, painted silver with jade snout, knob and handle, attached with pewter.

Allow me to elaborate further on @Bok's comments, from a collector's perspective why pots like this is not highly sought.... Remember, collectors always look for consistencies based on recorded workmanship and data from history.

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Assuming this was used in the past, the stains inside the pot is not consistent with the kind of tea stain you get on a heavily used pot.

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Again, the use of pewter is not merely ornamental, but it's used to secure the joints and cover up and unsightly workmanship. Which is not favourable among collectors. That also explains the lack of interest and many white elephants sitting on shelves.


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This flower pattern is commonly found from the 60s onwards, not during LQER or ROC era.

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These photos shows the pot is being coated after the calligraphy engraving was done. It's not common practice. Engravings are always left bare or in later years coated white/ivory in colour.

So, in conclusion, this pot is very inconsistent to be a early century pot and highly likely to be a repaired pot made to look old by a rookie. Hence the advise from Bok to look away and not waste your hard earned money... hahahaha....

my 2 cents worth.... cheers!!
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Tue May 19, 2020 9:05 pm

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Teachronicles Yes, indeed. I find 150ml to be quite useful, personally. My ideal session includes 8-10 grams of leaf, perfect for 150ml! I have another smaller Zhuni in consideration, but I really love this Zini as a whole. Who knows, maybe a Zhuni & Zini combo is in the works?!
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Interesting insight, thank you!

Do you have any experience with 60's Yixing? With your knowledge and expertise, I feel like you might own one or two ;)
Many of our forummers here have 60s Yixing in their armada of pots.
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armada of pots.
:lol:
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Tue May 19, 2020 9:09 pm

OCTO wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 9:06 pm
TeaTotaling wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 8:47 pm


Interesting insight, thank you!

Do you have any experience with 60's Yixing? With your knowledge and expertise, I feel like you might own one or two ;)
Many of our forummers here have 60s Yixing in their armada of pots.
Fancy! Sounds like I would be in good company.
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60's vibes!
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Tue May 19, 2020 9:16 pm

@Teachronicles @TeaTotaling

yes indeed... we are all in good company. Even @Mark-S have got some unopened boxes yet to be explored... so looks like this thread gonna be going down TF Hall of Fame.... hahahahahaha....
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Tue May 19, 2020 9:18 pm

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Teachronicles TeaTotaling

yes indeed... we are all in good company. Even Mark-S have got some unopened boxes yet to be explored... so looks like this thread gonna be going down TF Hall of Fame.... hahahahahaha....
Tea friends, are the best of friends! Raising a cup 8-)
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Tue May 19, 2020 9:22 pm

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Tea friends, are the best of friends! Raising a cup 8-)
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Tue May 19, 2020 9:24 pm

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OCTO wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 9:16 pm
Teachronicles TeaTotaling

yes indeed... we are all in good company. Even Mark-S have got some unopened boxes yet to be explored... so looks like this thread gonna be going down TF Hall of Fame.... hahahahahaha....
Tea friends, are the best of friends! Raising a cup 8-)
Or the worst, they make you empty your accounts ;)
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