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Mark-S
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Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:08 pm

Bok wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:43 pm
Alright then...
There are some differences, but I fear that you all call it a fake if I tell you... :P Personally, I don't think that this is a big issue. Everything else looks the same.

1. The alignment of the decorations on the lid's ring is different

2. The position of the handle differs a bit

Sorry for the really bad picture quality. For the Facebook group I will take better pictures.
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Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:21 pm

Mark-S wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:08 pm
Bok wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:43 pm
Alright then...
There are some differences, but I fear that you all call it a fake if I tell you... :P Personally, I don't think that this is a big issue. Everything else looks the same.

1. The alignment of the decorations on the lid's ring is different

2. The position of the handle differs a bit

Sorry for the really bad picture quality. For the Facebook group I will take better pictures.
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The clay looks good :) I think that's the most important thing, it should make good tea.
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OCTO
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Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:45 pm

steanze wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:21 pm
Mark-S wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:08 pm
Bok wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:43 pm
Alright then...
There are some differences, but I fear that you all call it a fake if I tell you... :P Personally, I don't think that this is a big issue. Everything else looks the same.

1. The alignment of the decorations on the lid's ring is different

2. The position of the handle differs a bit
The clay looks good :) I think that's the most important thing, it should make good tea.
Agreed. Like I said, it's not a fake by your definitions and mine too. Be it 70s or 80s... I'm not too bothered as the Green Label sticker is foundfrom the late 70s to early 80s.

It is in these details that actually makes a world of difference in the eye of a collector. Otherwise, as mentioned by @steanze, as long as it brews good tea.... what the heck... It's a good pot. PERIOD!.. hahahahaha....

Cheers!!
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Balthazar
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Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:18 am

I\m gonna jump on the bandwagon and ask what you think about this one (not a pot I own):

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Underside of pot:
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Inside lid:
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Inside pot:
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Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:39 am

steanze wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:47 pm
Does putting a seal with the name of a different potter count?
Is that a hommage or a forgery? Both can have high artistic values.
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OCTO
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Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:21 am

Balthazar wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:18 am
I\m gonna jump on the bandwagon and ask what you think about this one (not a pot I own):

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Underside of pot:
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Inside lid:
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Inside pot:
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From there photos.... it's a later year replica of a ROC pot. Workmanship is decent but nothing to wet your pants over... hahahaha......

Cheers!
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Balthazar
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Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:55 am

@OCTO: Thanks, that's also what my (very inexperienced) hunch told me :P
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Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:56 am

OCTO wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:21 am
From there photos.... it's a later year replica of a ROC pot. Workmanship is decent but nothing to wet your pants over... hahahaha......
Cheers!
The photo of the chipped underside of the lid looks like the pot has a "black bone". Wouldn't this indicate woodfiring and late qing/ROC period?
EDIT: By "later year" do you mean later during ROC?
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Baisao
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Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:43 pm

steanze wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:05 am
Squirrel pots start being made in the '80s.
Yes, but squirrels were being eaten much earlier. :D
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Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:48 pm

Baisao wrote:
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steanze wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:05 am
Squirrel pots start being made in the '80s.
Yes, but squirrels were being eaten much earlier. :D
Lol yes :lol:

Also - this refers specifically to that F1 type of squirrel pots. There are pots with grapes and squirrels from ROC, but they have a totally different shape (more tree-trunk like, not round)
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Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:21 pm

Mark-S wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:18 am
After the corona crisis I will post pictures of my pots in the Facebook group. But before I do that I have to find the right setting for it so my pots don't look shitty. Product photography is much harder than I thought.
Having been there and done that, even small distortions from a phone's camera lens can cause authentication problems.

Assuming you or others don't know photography and could use some tips:
* Use a "normal" length lens for your sensor size. This would be a 50mm lens for a full frame camera or 25mm on M4/3. This prevents perspective issues that make things look unnatural, giving an accurate view of how the object's proportions look to the human eye.

* Use a proper camera if possible. Even the newest iPhones have terrible distortion and lens coatings. The distortion will negatively impact the proportions and angles of your object.

* Use midday sunlight diffused through a light box, gauze, parchment paper, or a sheet. You can use artificial light targeting a color temperature of 6500k. Color temperature has a huge affect on how clay appears. Softening the light prevents harsh shadows.

HTH
Mark-S
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Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:33 pm

Baisao wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:21 pm
* Use midday sunlight diffused through a light box, gauze, parchment paper, or a sheet. You can use artificial light targeting a color temperature of 6500k. Color temperature has a huge affect on how clay appears. Softening the light prevents harsh shadows.
That's very useful, thanks :)
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Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:51 pm

steanze wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:48 pm
Baisao wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:43 pm
steanze wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:05 am
Squirrel pots start being made in the '80s.
Yes, but squirrels were being eaten much earlier. :D
Lol yes :lol:

Also - this refers specifically to that F1 type of squirrel pots. There are pots with grapes and squirrels from ROC, but they have a totally different shape (more tree-trunk like, not round)
@steanze @Baisao

This one? Hahahaha... 😛😛😛
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Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:57 pm

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steanze Baisao

This one? Hahahaha... 😛😛😛
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That's exactly the one I was thinking of :D
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Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:11 pm

OCTO wrote:
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Personally what lurks in the background interest me more, up on that box :mrgreen:
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