The Porcelain Thread

[Bok]

While I am in Thailand, I am often watching NHK World (English-speaking, public broadcasting from Japan), that often has short programs about Japanese ceramics. It seems with so much of the emphasis on pieces meant for beautiful decoration, it could be easy not to think about lead poisoning.

Those beautiful Imari pieces are also mostly over glaze and as such not really safe to use (talking about vintage/antique ones).

[DailyTX]

I first saw this style of cups at chawangshop in one of the photos they posted. I found one through ebay, so I guess no longer a wish . This style of cups are dated back to Qing to early ROC, so I have no clue if my cup is antique or replica. For the price of a starbucks cup, probably worth the value of fulfilling my wish.

[Bok]

This style of cups are dated back to Qing to early ROC, so I have no clue if my cup is antique or replica.

Looks like a replica, do you have images of the underside?

[DailyTX]

This style of cups are dated back to Qing to early ROC, so I have no clue if my cup is antique or replica.

Looks like a replica, do you have images of the underside?

@Bok
Do you mean the bottom of the cup? or inside of the cup? Not really sure what underside you are referring to...

[Bok]

Do you mean the bottom of the cup? or inside of the cup? Not really sure what underside you are referring to...

Yes bottom, the foot as seen from underneath. That is where you can usually determine the approx. age. Other than that one can also judge the hue of blue, but that is more difficult to do from pictures.

Ah, sorry just saw the other pictures, not visible before on my phone, or did you upload those later?

[Bok]

Seeing those, it looks like a replica to me.

[DailyTX]

Seeing those, it looks like a replica to me.

For the price, you may be right. Let me take a few more photos with a comparison of 1950s cup. It’s night time here, so the light made the bottom more white. Seeing with naked eye, the cup has a bluish hue

[DailyTX]

Here is a side by side comparison of 1950s Jingdezhen cup.

[Bok]

@DailyTX Tricky to tell. The perfect condition ones are more difficult to date. If you had rust spots, or tiny firing defects, that would make it easier. See for example this article: http://ceramics.chalre.com/authenticati ... mics_1.htm

Be careful with the brown glaze though, some people have tested similar ones with a 3M lead test kit and they came back positive!

Or you can post images on this forum for further help. Mostly people just voice an opinion if it is not obviously a fake: http://discussion.chinese-antique-porce ... ?board=1.0

[DailyTX]

DailyTX Tricky to tell. The perfect condition ones are more difficult to date. If you had rust spots, or tiny firing defects, that would make it easier. See for example this article: http://ceramics.chalre.com/authenticati ... mics_1.htm

Be careful with the brown glaze though, some people have tested similar ones with a 3M lead test kit and they came back positive!

Or you can post images on this forum for further help. Mostly people just voice an opinion if it is not obviously a fake: http://discussion.chinese-antique-porce ... ?board=1.0

@Bok
Thank you for the links, I have close to zero experience dating porcelain. Maybe one day I’ll go find some books and start learning I have a couple mystery porcelain pieces that I do want to figure out later

[Mark-S]

Hi,

I own multiple Yixing teapots (modern and Factory 1), but I do not have a porcelain teapot yet. I recently found a pretty one and would like your opinion on it. The seller claims that this pot is an Chinese Art Nouveau style teapot (1890-1919). It has no makers mark on it. What do you think?

Regards,
Mark

Edit: I had to remove the image due to a copyright claim. Sorry

[Bok]

Looks European to me.

[Mark-S]

Looks European to me.

It has a 7 hole filter, so I thought it might be a Chinese teapot meant for export. However, I have seen an old German pot with a 7 hole filter now. So you are probably right and the description is wrong. I will take a pass on it then. Thanks for your opinion Unfortunately, all other teapots I found had a colorful glaze.

[Elise]

Looks European to me.

Same to me, or Chinese made for exportation to Europe (because of the cabbage look which is less surprising in Asian ceramics).

[klepto]

I have some hasami porcelain cups but I am not sure how to clean them properly without messing up the flavor of my tea.