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Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:18 am
by pantry
Nice! The red lacquer looks good with Zhuni even without kintsugi!

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 2:32 am
by Bok
pantry wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 1:18 am
Nice! The red lacquer looks good with Zhuni even without kintsugi!
Actually there are a few colours that are commonly used to finish without the use of gold or silver powder. Most common is red and black.

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 4:38 am
by carogust
This piece is amazing.

The history of the antique, amazing craftmanship, 100% no debate zhuni and now a repair well executed to add to its history....

Whoever buys this is lucky.

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 5:00 am
by Bok
Thanks everyone :) It’s been a lot of fun, on the downside I’m getting attached to this piece...

@carogust wait until you see the handle wrapping, being done as we speak by a dear and talented friend with nimble fingers. That is the one part I would have despaired at for sure!

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 5:29 am
by carogust
Bok wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 5:00 am
carogust wait until you see the handle wrapping, being done as we speak by a dear and talented friend with nimble fingers. That is the one part I would have despaired at for sure!
I tried to do this with a porcelain teapot that has a nasty habit of slipping when holding it. Definitely not easy and I gave up!

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 1:58 am
by Pants404
How does the kintsugi feel when finished and cured? Is it a hard, smooth plastic feel? Firm but soft enough to indent with a fingernail?
I am imagining it would feel the same as dried/polymerized pine resin still on the tree.
Would it be brittle at all?
Is there a different in cured product between gold finished and red/black?
I figure this isn't going off topic and it never hurts to ask questions

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 2:11 am
by Bok
Pants404 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:58 am
How does the kintsugi feel when finished and cured? Is it a hard, smooth plastic feel? Firm but soft enough to indent with a fingernail?
I am imagining it would feel the same as dried/polymerized pine resin still on the tree.
Would it be brittle at all?
Is there a different in cured product between gold finished and red/black?
I figure this isn't going off topic and it never hurts to ask questions
Basically it’s like these red or black lacquered tableware from Japan! It’s the same stuff. So it’s smooth and hard, resin like as you guessed. Can not be scratched with a fingernail.

With the Gold it’s still quite same feel, maybe a bit less slippery.

One reason I’m adding a cotton wrapping is that it’s a bit tricky to handle when filled with hot water. Too slippery.

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 5:09 am
by Pants404
In my mind I don't like the idea of a wrapped handle, but I'm sure it will be well done and look great. It's just different to me.
Thanks for answering the question.

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 5:23 am
by Bok
@Pants404 yeah I know where you are coming from I usually do not fancy wrapping either. In this case it solves two issues: the slippery handling. Secondly I don’t think I the red of the Kintsugi matches the clay too well, so if I can cover it up a bit, it’ll look more harmonious. Historically also fitting, many examples of the past have them. Just nowadays people who spent a lot of money on these old timers usually want to see all of it :)

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 8:19 pm
by Bok
Wrapping all done. Taking it for a few test rides now to see how everything turned out :)

In any case my friend did an excellent job with the wrapping. Natural cotton, which I think matches nicely the pearskin Zhuni. Will stain and age along with the clay.

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 8:21 pm
by Bok
Inside shots and also the banged up lid. The workmanship is so fine that some details of hand-made can almost only be felt rather than seen.

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 8:23 pm
by Bok
To finish...

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:09 pm
by Pants404
Personally I'm not sure how I feel about the wrapping, but I would love to see it after some heavy use.
I am glad you haven't touched the lid. To me it shows its true age and use without impeding performance or Overall appearance.
All up it looks great and whoever it ends up with will no doubt be happy.

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:33 pm
by Teachronicles
Pants404 wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 9:09 pm
Personally I'm not sure how I feel about the wrapping, but I would love to see it after some heavy use.
I am glad you haven't touched the lid. To me it shows its true age and use without impeding performance or Overall appearance.
All up it looks great and whoever it ends up with will no doubt be happy.
I think bok is very happy :lol:

Re: Future Sale project: Qing/ROC Pearskin Zhuni

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 12:02 am
by pantry
Looking good! Can we see the inside of the pot where you connect the handle? Wanted to see how it was done :D