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Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:14 pm
by swordofmytriumph
:shock:

How did mussels get into the water pipes in Texas of all places? Lol I’ll have to tell my brother he moved there last month. I don think he knows yet to avoid the tap water.

Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:21 pm
by Baisao
swordofmytriumph wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:14 pm
:shock:

How did mussels get into the water pipes in Texas of all places? Lol I’ll have to tell my brother he moved there last month. I don think he knows yet to avoid the tap water.
People visiting here from other places put their boats in the water without flushing the water out of their boats first. This carried mussel larvae from infected lakes to our lakes, to our water treatment areas.

Carpetbaggers be gone!

Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:24 pm
by swordofmytriumph
Ew yuck.

Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:05 pm
by Victoria
Those zebra mussels are invasive and predatory and they love clogging up municipal dirty pipes. They have been a big problem in Europe for some time. Austin has its hands full with water.

Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:32 pm
by Baisao
Victoria wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:05 pm
Austin has its hands full with water.
Ain't that the truth! Boom town troubles.

Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:00 pm
by Victoria
Just came across @Atlas post about water in his and S_B blog, DeadLeaves.club;
What’s in a water?. Here he recommends Kroger’s Palomar Mtn spring water (110-120ppm TDS). I can’t find any data on it though.

Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:48 pm
by Rickpatbrown
Baisao wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:17 am

I also used Fiji years ago and though I liked the flavor, the high TDS (around 250) made tea that was heavy on the palate and lacked elan. While it is a delicious water, it pushed the tea around. Political and environmental issues also concerned me with this water.
Hey Baisao, can you explain "elan"? I dont recall hearing this term before.

Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:57 pm
by Baisao
Rickpatbrown wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:48 pm
Baisao wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:17 am

I also used Fiji years ago and though I liked the flavor, the high TDS (around 250) made tea that was heavy on the palate and lacked elan. While it is a delicious water, it pushed the tea around. Political and environmental issues also concerned me with this water.
Hey Baisao, can you explain "elan"? I dont recall hearing this term before.
@Rickpatbrown, here’s the definition for for elan. In this context, to me, it is a kind of energetic lightness that some waters and teas have.

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Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:00 pm
by Victoria
This book, available in April, sounds like it will be very interesting to see. The photographer, Brad Temkin, is based in Chicago and has gone around the USA documenting water treatment facilities;
https://www.wired.com/story/wastewater- ... t-gallery/

https://radiusbooks.org/books/brad-temk ... -of-water/

Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:59 am
by There is no self
Take this with a grain of salt, but I've been having good results brewing shu with Acqua San Bernardo. If anyone's curious, here's the analysis courtesy of the University of Pavia:

TDS: 34 mg/l
Ph: 7

Sodium: 0,8 mg/l
Calcium: 8,9 mg/l
Silica: 4 mg/l
Sulphates: 2,3 mg/l
Nitrites: < 0,002 mg/l
Magnesium: 0,6 mg/l
Potassium: 0,4 mg/l
Bicarbonates: 27,9 mg/l
Nitrates: 1,4 mg/l
Chlorides: 0,6 mg/l

Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:19 am
by Victoria
Thanks for the data @There is no self. I’m guessing you are somewhere in Italy, looks like it’s only distributed there. Do you have a link to this data, so we can include in compilation?

Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:08 pm
by There is no self
Victoria wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:19 am
Thanks for the data There is no self. I’m guessing you are somewhere in Italy, looks like it’s only distributed there. Do you have a link to this data, so we can include in compilation?
The only data available online is here: www.sanbernardo.it/le-acque/bottiglia-pet-150cl/
It's from 2013, though, whilst the one I took from the bottle is from 2016.

Yes, San Bernardo isn't distributed abroad, but perhaps people can look for waters with similar parameters.

Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:47 pm
by Victoria
There is no self wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:08 pm
....Yes, San Bernardo isn't distributed abroad, but perhaps people can look for waters with similar parameters.
Thanks for link, I’ll use both. You are right about the benefits of comparing data. @There is no self wonder if you can get Total Hardness and Alkalinity data from Univ. of Pavia ?

Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:00 am
by gatmcm
Here are the specs of the water I use for tea, Serra da Estrela brand, its good if a bit flat, feels the most 'neutral' out of the ones I tried
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Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:35 pm
by Rickpatbrown
Just an update to my water pursuit:

I found Nice! Iceland spring water to probably be the best water I can find in Maryland, but its $1.60/liter (about $6/gallon)... the most expensive option.

I've gone back to getting Mt. Valley Spring ($4/gallon) water delivered (230 TDS, slightly basic) and I'm mixing it with Poland Spring ($1.10/gallon and 33-100 TDS slightly acidic).

The mixture of these 2 seems to work well. I can try to figure out the ratio for specific teas. This gets my price down to about $2.5/gallon for some pretty nice water.

I still get some precipitation when I boil, even when I mix them. It's not as substantial as the pure Mt. Valley water and it doesn't really bother me. It turns my kettles white, but wipes up pretty easily.

I think I'll rest here for the foreseeable future. I dont know if others have access to these two, but I'd love to hear if others agree.