Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

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Balthazar
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Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:16 am

Yep, Voss from the tap most places here, can't really complain about that.
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Vinski
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Sat Aug 17, 2024 9:42 am

That's true. Tap water quality is a relative concept. In several countries and regions, the quality of tap water is excellent. For example, in the place where I live, tap water is also groundwater.
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wave_code
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Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:40 am

I have mostly stuck to and dialed in a recipe that is a tds of 106 that I have found gives me the best balance of aroma, mouth feel, and extraction power for fermented teas. I find going too light leaves darker teas lacking.

Unfortunately I still haven't found a solution yet with either getting an RO system or local RO water delivered but am working on it. The tap water here is far too chalky to be useable and even filtering it by conventional means does little to nothing than kill water filters. But for those in areas with light or just generally usable tap water that maybe is a bit out of balance, I really recommend sitting down and doing a bit of math and seeing what is available to you. Maybe pitching just a bit of a certain mineral water or two in to each liter of your tea water can really even things out and make a big improvement, and using 40ml per liter of water means you aren't burning through bottled water cutting down your costs and impact massively. Well worth the effort.
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Vinski
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Tue Aug 20, 2024 1:45 pm

wave_code wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:40 am
The tap water here is far too chalky to be useable and even filtering it by conventional means does little to nothing than kill water filters.
What is your prevailing water hardness in degrees German hardness (°dH). It is a more familiar unit, for example used by the water works operating here. The water here might even be too soft for tea (2.7°dH).
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wave_code
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Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:06 am

Probably varies by where in the city you are, but overall it looks like it is around 14 degrees, very hard. Also my pipes taste/smell off.
Bourder
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Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:26 am

According to my water provider's tap water lab reports the specs of mine are, on average:

pH: 7,5
CaCO3: 234 mg/l
Iron <20 μg/l
Manganese <10 μg/l
Chlorides <5 mg/l
Ammonium <0,04 mg/l
Nitrates: 0,33 mg/l
Nitrites <0,01 mg/l.

That makes it ~13.1 in German degrees, which is considered hard. Recently, I can really taste it. I'll probably start looking for some way to lower the TDS, but I'm not sure if there is any spring water softer than what I have. For better results I'd have to cut the TDS in half, right?

On another note, is anyone familiar with "The Hidden Messages in Water" by Masaru Emoto? It says that distilled water is not very good and microwaved water is literally Satan.
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Baisao
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Fri Sep 13, 2024 12:50 am

Vinski wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:45 am
"Exclusive bottled water is municipal water
World stars drink exclusively Voss water, but the water is no more exclusive than the fact that it is supplied by a municipal waterworks in Southern Norway."

https://www.tv2.no/nyheter/eksklusivt-f ... /12823560/
They have wonderful municipal water in Norway and most of Europe, unlike the US.
Sunyata
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Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:56 pm

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Trying out Tibetan water. It's very soft and makes tea sweet and clean, however it does pull out more astringency and my teas tastes flatter with it, barely any "body" or texture from my brews. So far not impressed, will try more. Note that I used this on sheng pu and yancha, both types that I drink the most.

As an aside, does anyone get good results with Volvic for yancha?
Sunyata
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Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:21 am

Continuing with my water experiments, now using Volvic water to brew sheng pu and yancha. I got to say that its disappointing. Muffles and mutes the sheng pu, while it performs better with yancha - it doesnt bring out the flavors of yancha. The only positive thing I see is that for those adverse to even the slightest hint of sour-ness in yancha, it will not extract any of that lol. I couldnt be bothered with other european brands as Ive experimented with Fiji and Acqua Panna in the past and gotten poor results (chalky, soupy, murky).

Ok.. so Samdasoo (Korean jeju water) is great for young sheng pu and dancong. Perhaps even better for whites, greens, reds. Brings out the sweetness and clarity of these teas. But sorely lacking the texture and body.

While the best all-rounder water that I've had is the Hokuren Taisetsuzan (Japan Hokkaido water). Great for all teas, but especially good for yancha. Sweet and round. Don't bother with the other Hokkaido water brands as Ive tried them all and are quite flat and empty.

Did you know that Nongfu Spring has a water specifically for brewing tea? I will be experimenting with that.. apparently its sourced from Wuyishan itself, so ideally its a step up from the regular nongfu spring for daily drinking.

Will post my findings soon.
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