Some reflections and some new things learned on a trip to Taiwan
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:46 pm
Perhaps an "appellation" system will come to Taiwan after all: https://tillermantea.net/2018/12/reflections/
Tea Knowledge & Friendship
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One of my favourites as well, I recognised it on your IG photo! The problem with Westerners not liking soy milk is that we simply do not know what good, fresh soy milk is supposed to taste like! So much sold in the West is enough to scar anyone for life!
Breakfast at Hong Ye
Breakfast at He Yong in Taipei is a must – even if soy milk is not your favorite.
That is surprising! Cost of labour used to be more expensive in Taiwan. Yet the retail of Wuyi teas is more likely in the multitudes of what tea is sold for in Taiwan.OldWaysTea wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:33 pmInteresting to see production costs mentioned. Wuyishan is in the same ballpark.
You only mention it very briefly in the discussion over DYL, but for some time now I have been thinking about economico-ethical drinking or about the question of the value of very expensive teas. I drink a tea that runs for $2/1g and it certainly has special features that another tea that runs for a half of that doesn't have, but does that makes it better than that tea? does it make it more enjoyable? Or, practically speaking, when I decide on how I will spend my tea budget, what portion of it should I dedicate to special but not necessarily less enjoyable teas? Many of us seem to have this attitude "get the most special and rarest" which is part of what drives the market like this...Tillerman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:46 pmPerhaps an "appellation" system will come to Taiwan after all: https://tillermantea.net/2018/12/reflections/
I think you are absolutely correct, Bok. The western market for "fine" tea is not large and follows, not leads, that of China.Bok wrote: ↑Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:21 amI do not think the Western market for high quality tea is any more than a niche. What drives the market in my opinion is demand from Asia, specifically China. Economic prosperity and a lot deeper pockets and will to spend it on a commodity like tea is what makes the good stuff rare and expensive for anyone else.
The ethical considerations in tea drinking are not much dwelt upon by most consumers. (Are the ethical considerations of any consumption much considered by most consumers?) But tea cultivation and production do have impacts on the environment, on social structures, and on the economy and we as tea drinkers ought to be cognisant of them. Drink your tea but know that it does not come to you in a vacuum.ShuShu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:09 amYou only mention it very briefly in the discussion over DYL, but for some time now I have been thinking about economico-ethical drinking or about the question of the value of very expensive teas. I drink a tea that runs for $2/1g and it certainly has special features that another tea that runs for a half of that doesn't have, but does that makes it better than that tea? does it make it more enjoyable? Or, practically speaking, when I decide on how I will spend my tea budget, what portion of it should I dedicate to special but not necessarily less enjoyable teas? Many of us seem to have this attitude "get the most special and rarest" which is part of what drives the market like this...Tillerman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:46 pmPerhaps an "appellation" system will come to Taiwan after all: https://tillermantea.net/2018/12/reflections/
To budget, one should look at cost per infusion, not just cost per gram. Only in 2018, have I drunk so much expensive tea, dayuling and fushoushan, with prices about $1 per gram. However, I use 1 gram to infuse about 170ml of water or about 6/10ths of a gram to infuse about 80ml. Some days I like delicate brews so steep quickly for 9 or 10 rounds. Some days I prefer richer brews and steep longer for 5 or 6 rounds. The cost per round is quite low.ShuShu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:09 amOr, practically speaking, when I decide on how I will spend my tea budget, what portion of it should I dedicate to special but not necessarily less enjoyable teas? Many of us seem to have this attitude "get the most special and rarest" which is part of what drives the market like this...
But it may come to you vacuum sealedTillerman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:49 amThe ethical considerations in tea drinking are not much dwelt upon by most consumers. (Are the ethical considerations of any consumption much considered by most consumers?) But tea cultivation and production do have impacts on the environment, on social structures, and on the economy and we as tea drinkers ought to be cognisant of them. Drink your tea but know that it does not come to you in a vacuum.