NY Times article about beautiful tea

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Tea doesn't have to be respectable all the time -- that's the basic idea behind that most ancient of tea-pets, the Pee Pee Boy. :)
I'd say it doesn't have to be anything – tea is just tea. The rest is what we make of it.
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Only last week, I did a virtual private tea session with one of Wu De's students. It was fantastic! Very meditative and spiritual.
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treetime wrote:
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Only last week, I did a virtual private tea session with one of Wu De's students. It was fantastic! Very meditative and spiritual.
I have to ask, was that person a model too? :lol: j/k
Honestly I don't think the message they're sending is bad. I like the Taiwanese oolong I got from GTH.

@Bok I have friends in the Lolita movement. They're productive members of the society; never bother nor cause harm to anybody. It's just a fashion choice ;) -- not any different from Patagonia vest over short sleeved tee favored by men over 40s where I live.
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:47 pm

pantry wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:38 pm
treetime wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:11 pm
Only last week, I did a virtual private tea session with one of Wu De's students. It was fantastic! Very meditative and spiritual.
I have to ask, was that person a model too? :lol: j/k
Honestly I don't think the message they're sending is bad. I like the Taiwanese oolong I got from GTH.

Bok I have friends in the Lolita movement. They're productive members of the society; never bother nor cause harm to anybody. It's just a fashion choice ;) -- not any different from Patagonia vest over short sleeved tee favored by men over 40s where I live.
No judgment involved here from my side, just stating an example of another more visible sun culture :)

If you ask me tan wearing vest guys are probably worse, haha
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:01 pm

Who is out there putting crystals in tea?! Nmind, I don't want to know. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:11 pm

If anyone has Chinese language links/info on Lim Ping Xiang, Wu De's teacher, I always want to learn more about him.

This is his great video on liu bao:

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Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:52 pm

Creepy looking fella who gets storage wrong. HKG tea storage folks should sue this guy but then again he won't be able to pay up I don't think...
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14:50... Ooohh.. painful...
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14:50... Ooohh.. painful...
Please elaborate your pain :mrgreen:
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:56 pm

Oh boy, what did I start by resurrecting this thread ;) to be fair it was on the first page of its subforum, and I couldnt resist.
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tea is just tea. The rest is what we make of it.
Yeah I pretty much agree with this take.

In the first few years of my tea habit, I collected a bunch of artisanal Japanese tea implements, read about the history, etc.

Once I attended an actual Urasenke ceremony demonstration at the center in NYC: https://www.yelp.com/biz/urasenke-chano ... k-new-york

It was quite interesting, and baroque.

But the past decade I am more about my own little ritual of just making loose leaf tea in simple, easily cleanable glassware. Minimalist compared to some, although I do use a scale and timer, and measure the water precisely, and use a thermometer for non-black tea, and fine-tune the brewing parameters.

That's just what sparks joy for me. Relative simplicity.

On the other hand, whether one is personally more "secular/agnostic," like me, or more "spiritual/romantic," there does seem to be something about the pursuit of good tea, that is calming, centering, and "elevating."

I don't approve of people con-ing neophytes or the gullible though. And I think that is maybe where Ethan was coming from, when he remarked that this California group deserves a bit of mockery.

As the Times did it, relatively good-natured mockery, perhaps.
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:35 pm

Bok wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:50 pm
StoneLadle wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:59 pm
14:50... Ooohh.. painful...
Please elaborate your pain :mrgreen:
makes me think he's a con man... any idiot can tell the difference between PE and LB if placed side by side... what a moron

:D :D :D
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StoneLadle wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:35 pm
Bok wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:50 pm
StoneLadle wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:59 pm
14:50... Ooohh.. painful...
Please elaborate your pain :mrgreen:
makes me think he's a con man... any idiot can tell the difference between PE and LB if placed side by side... what a moron

:D :D :D
At 14:50 I think he is referring to the Taiwanese equivalent of people here who like peach rooibos. Those people would definitely have a difficult time telling the difference in mouthfeel between shou and liu bao, however obvious it is to us.

The world doesn't need more "dirty Buddhas".
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:33 pm

Nope. That's not what he meant.
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:35 am

Respectfully, StoneLadle, I am disturbed by your comments about Lim Piang Xiang.

I wonder if anyone else felt this way.

To be honest, it seems disparaging.

I am not talking about cancel culture, about calling someone out, just inviting a gentle closer look.

I don’t know it to be true, but I am guessing that there are more men than women on this board. And I wonder if this assertive, dominant way of talking about tea that also happened in this thread - “It’s just this” - is reflective of something deeper.

I’m not interested in a precious, West-coast, yoga-style gongfu either. But I am wondering if this message board forum has an unconscious tendency to “police” conversations that tend toward the feminine or spiritual.
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:10 am

@treetime

Tea gurus are aplenty, especially originating from this part of the world.

This guy chose a certain trajectory and explicitly said something rather nonsensical. Gurus need to be consistent and if they're out there, that's their choice and the responses are just that.

I have no interest in gender politics when it comes to tea but I do have issues with misinformation and chimped up "spirituality"...
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