I'd say it doesn't have to be anything – tea is just tea. The rest is what we make of it.
NY Times article about beautiful tea
I have to ask, was that person a model too?
j/kHonestly I don't think the message they're sending is bad. I like the Taiwanese oolong I got from GTH.
@Bok I have friends in the Lolita movement. They're productive members of the society; never bother nor cause harm to anybody. It's just a fashion choice
-- not any different from Patagonia vest over short sleeved tee favored by men over 40s where I live.No judgment involved here from my side, just stating an example of another more visible sun culturepantry wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:38 pmI have to ask, was that person a model too?
Honestly I don't think the message they're sending is bad. I like the Taiwanese oolong I got from GTH.
Bok I have friends in the Lolita movement. They're productive members of the society; never bother nor cause harm to anybody. It's just a fashion choice
If you ask me tan wearing vest guys are probably worse, haha
Who is out there putting crystals in tea?! Nmind, I don't want to know. 
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Creepy looking fella who gets storage wrong. HKG tea storage folks should sue this guy but then again he won't be able to pay up I don't think...
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14:50... Ooohh.. painful...
Please elaborate your pain
Oh boy, what did I start by resurrecting this thread to be fair it was on the first page of its subforum, and I couldnt resist.
In the first few years of my tea habit, I collected a bunch of artisanal Japanese tea implements, read about the history, etc.
Once I attended an actual Urasenke ceremony demonstration at the center in NYC: https://www.yelp.com/biz/urasenke-chano ... k-new-york
It was quite interesting, and baroque.
But the past decade I am more about my own little ritual of just making loose leaf tea in simple, easily cleanable glassware. Minimalist compared to some, although I do use a scale and timer, and measure the water precisely, and use a thermometer for non-black tea, and fine-tune the brewing parameters.
That's just what sparks joy for me. Relative simplicity.
On the other hand, whether one is personally more "secular/agnostic," like me, or more "spiritual/romantic," there does seem to be something about the pursuit of good tea, that is calming, centering, and "elevating."
I don't approve of people con-ing neophytes or the gullible though. And I think that is maybe where Ethan was coming from, when he remarked that this California group deserves a bit of mockery.
As the Times did it, relatively good-natured mockery, perhaps.
to be fair it was on the first page of its subforum, and I couldnt resist.Yeah I pretty much agree with this take.
In the first few years of my tea habit, I collected a bunch of artisanal Japanese tea implements, read about the history, etc.
Once I attended an actual Urasenke ceremony demonstration at the center in NYC: https://www.yelp.com/biz/urasenke-chano ... k-new-york
It was quite interesting, and baroque.
But the past decade I am more about my own little ritual of just making loose leaf tea in simple, easily cleanable glassware. Minimalist compared to some, although I do use a scale and timer, and measure the water precisely, and use a thermometer for non-black tea, and fine-tune the brewing parameters.
That's just what sparks joy for me. Relative simplicity.
On the other hand, whether one is personally more "secular/agnostic," like me, or more "spiritual/romantic," there does seem to be something about the pursuit of good tea, that is calming, centering, and "elevating."
I don't approve of people con-ing neophytes or the gullible though. And I think that is maybe where Ethan was coming from, when he remarked that this California group deserves a bit of mockery.
As the Times did it, relatively good-natured mockery, perhaps.
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At 14:50 I think he is referring to the Taiwanese equivalent of people here who like peach rooibos. Those people would definitely have a difficult time telling the difference in mouthfeel between shou and liu bao, however obvious it is to us.StoneLadle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:35 pmmakes me think he's a con man... any idiot can tell the difference between PE and LB if placed side by side... what a moron
The world doesn't need more "dirty Buddhas".
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Nope. That's not what he meant.
Respectfully, StoneLadle, I am disturbed by your comments about Lim Piang Xiang.
I wonder if anyone else felt this way.
To be honest, it seems disparaging.
I am not talking about cancel culture, about calling someone out, just inviting a gentle closer look.
I don’t know it to be true, but I am guessing that there are more men than women on this board. And I wonder if this assertive, dominant way of talking about tea that also happened in this thread - “It’s just this” - is reflective of something deeper.
I’m not interested in a precious, West-coast, yoga-style gongfu either. But I am wondering if this message board forum has an unconscious tendency to “police” conversations that tend toward the feminine or spiritual.
I wonder if anyone else felt this way.
To be honest, it seems disparaging.
I am not talking about cancel culture, about calling someone out, just inviting a gentle closer look.
I don’t know it to be true, but I am guessing that there are more men than women on this board. And I wonder if this assertive, dominant way of talking about tea that also happened in this thread - “It’s just this” - is reflective of something deeper.
I’m not interested in a precious, West-coast, yoga-style gongfu either. But I am wondering if this message board forum has an unconscious tendency to “police” conversations that tend toward the feminine or spiritual.
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@treetime
Tea gurus are aplenty, especially originating from this part of the world.
This guy chose a certain trajectory and explicitly said something rather nonsensical. Gurus need to be consistent and if they're out there, that's their choice and the responses are just that.
I have no interest in gender politics when it comes to tea but I do have issues with misinformation and chimped up "spirituality"...
Tea gurus are aplenty, especially originating from this part of the world.
This guy chose a certain trajectory and explicitly said something rather nonsensical. Gurus need to be consistent and if they're out there, that's their choice and the responses are just that.
I have no interest in gender politics when it comes to tea but I do have issues with misinformation and chimped up "spirituality"...