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teabug
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Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:59 pm

here are some pics. hope I manage to upload those photographs…(I am not the most tech savvy person)
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Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:13 pm

so, don‘t get me wrong. Generally speaking the pot is OK with decent clay. But for my fingers (on the larger side) the knob is a bit too small and sits somewhat shallow on the lid. Also, I like fast pouring pots. If one does adjust brewing times accordingly, the slow pour is manageable. Not an ideal pot for me, but for others it might be exactly the opposite.
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Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:03 am

teabug wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:13 pm
so, don‘t get me wrong. Generally speaking the pot is OK with decent clay. But for my fingers (on the larger side) the knob is a bit too small and sits somewhat shallow on the lid. Also, I like fast pouring pots. If one does adjust brewing times accordingly, the slow pour is manageable. Not an ideal pot for me, but for others it might be exactly the opposite.
So when you only add water into the pot, then empty it, that tooks 20s or is it 20s when it has tea inside? What size is the pot?

Keep your finger on the lid, not the lid knob when you do this test with cold water, without tea. And don't go to 90' straight away, but just gradually increase the degree as you feel the water pressure is getting weaker.
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Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:38 pm

Youzi wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:47 pm
Which teapot did you get?
I got the 65ml Jian Hu. Apparently there have been some design adjustments made in the meantime. On the current offerings the „master craftsman with 30 years experience in the industry“ has made some crucial adjustments to the knob, which now sits higher and to the spout, which now is noticably bigger (wider opening). I wonder why…
That yannartgallery seems more like an experimental lab than a art gallery.
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Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:52 pm

Youzi wrote:
Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:03 am

So when you only add water into the pot, then empty it, that tooks 20s or is it 20s when it has tea inside? What size is the pot?

Keep your finger on the lid, not the lid knob when you do this test with cold water, without tea. And don't go to 90' straight away, but just gradually increase the degree as you feel the water pressure is getting weaker.
I measured it without tea leafs. Your tip to gradually tilt the pot is working. With a bit of practise, I got the pour down to somwhere around 16-17 seconds. Still not my fastest pot, but better than before. Thanks for that tip.
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Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:02 pm

teabug wrote:
Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:52 pm
Youzi wrote:
Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:03 am

So when you only add water into the pot, then empty it, that tooks 20s or is it 20s when it has tea inside? What size is the pot?

Keep your finger on the lid, not the lid knob when you do this test with cold water, without tea. And don't go to 90' straight away, but just gradually increase the degree as you feel the water pressure is getting weaker.
I measured it without tea leafs. Your tip to gradually tilt the pot is working. With a bit of practise, I got the pour down to somwhere around 16-17 seconds. Still not my fastest pot, but better than before. Thanks for that tip.
17 seconds for 65ml? That's incredibly slow. Is the water stream continuous or dribbling? Since you said that the knob is too small, try to make sure you aren't covering the hole on the lid and that it's not blocked with tea leaves.
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Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:42 pm

teabug wrote:
Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:52 pm
Youzi wrote:
Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:03 am

So when you only add water into the pot, then empty it, that tooks 20s or is it 20s when it has tea inside? What size is the pot?

Keep your finger on the lid, not the lid knob when you do this test with cold water, without tea. And don't go to 90' straight away, but just gradually increase the degree as you feel the water pressure is getting weaker.
I measured it without tea leafs. Your tip to gradually tilt the pot is working. With a bit of practise, I got the pour down to somwhere around 16-17 seconds. Still not my fastest pot, but better than before. Thanks for that tip.
That's very slow for just water! I dont think I have one that slow - even my wonky f1's!!
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Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:29 pm

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That's very slow for just water! I dont think I have one that slow - even my wonky f1's!!
It is indeed very slow. I have the sneaking suspicion that this is caused by a combination of a very small air hole and, first and foremost, by a too narrow tip of the spout. Hence the recent design adjustment to those pots by the „master“ 8-) craftsman. The air hole problem I might be able to fix by widening it a bit with a thin metal rod. But I am a bit anxious that I will be damaging the damn thing in the process. The spout can‘t be widened, only shortened by sawing the tip off, which makes it automatically a bit wider due to its conical shape. But I wont go that far. Sawing off a piece of the spout would very likely damage it and would also upset the balance of the pot. I probably simply avoid those fully handmade vendors in the future and stick to tested half handmade. Or even better - only purchase at brick and mortar shops once covid is over and travelling can resume (which means never).
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Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:32 pm

@teabug
I wouldn't do any surgery like that! Would only decrease the value of the pot. Try an f1 trick: lift the lid off slightly as you pour to get some air in

Also that pic looks nothing like your pot. Your pot seems quite a bit thicker and more rough. Is this standard for yanni? Even the clay looks different! Wow not looking good for yanni
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Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:13 pm

teabug wrote:
Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:38 pm
Youzi wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:47 pm
Which teapot did you get?
I got the 65ml Jian Hu. Apparently there have been some design adjustments made in the meantime. On the current offerings the „master craftsman with 30 years experience in the industry“ has made some crucial adjustments to the knob, which now sits higher and to the spout, which now is noticably bigger (wider opening). I wonder why…
That yannartgallery seems more like an experimental lab than a art gallery.
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Isn’t “art” open to interpretation?? Anything goes :lol:
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Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:02 am

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teabug
I wouldn't do any surgery like that! Would only decrease the value of the pot. Try an f1 trick: lift the lid off slightly as you pour to get some air in

Also that pic looks nothing like your pot. Your pot seems quite a bit thicker and more rough. Is this standard for yanni? Even the clay looks different! Wow not looking good for yanni
Well, my photographs are taken with a cellphone. The ones on the website are most likely taken professionally with some lightroom post processing done. It is basically the same 65ml pot from the same potter. He simply made those adjustments. Unfortunately for me, he made them after my purchase. :|

These are two screenshots from the website - the new and improved configuration (top) and the old version (bottom): Same pot, different details ;)
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Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:11 am

@teabug to
me the bottom one looks more harmonious, odd choice to use an elongated lid knob on a flattish round shape.
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Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:56 am

Bok wrote:
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to me the bottom one looks more harmonious, odd choice to use an elongated lid knob on a flattish round shape.
Concessions to usability is a reminder that teapots are items destined for everyday use, and there is hidden beauty and humility in trying to serve the intended purpose better, even if that comes at the expense of some aesthetic criteria. A bit like spending time volunteering rather than going to the gym.

On the other hand, up to a point, you could say becoming a truly renowned artist starts with making odd choices to be able to stand out from the crowd, and coupling that with a standout marketing job (ideally through rich and influential friends or benefactors to sell the story) to convince everyone that whatever you produce is the result of a profound and influential vision... :)
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Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:25 am

faj wrote:
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Concessions to usability
.... A bit like spending time volunteering rather than going to the gym.

...., up to a point, you could say becoming a truly renowned artist starts with making odd choices to be able to stand out from the crowd, and coupling that with a standout marketing job... to convince everyone that whatever you produce is the result of a profound and influential vision... :)
What a great comparison! Being truly useful to society versus exercising in a gym to look beautiful during a selfish life that does others little good despite posts on the internet of beautiful abs.

I had a comment about your other insight that I admire, but though it was a profound comment as I was distracted by taking care of ordinary bodily needs it left my mind. I guess my vision does not have enough influence over me, an unambitious guy who gets distracted by drinking some water & putting some into a kettle. Cheers
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Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:31 pm

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teabug to
me the bottom one looks more harmonious, odd choice to use an elongated lid knob on a flattish round shape.
How about that one for a harmonious design which is still highly practical (easy to grab). My favorite chaozhou teapot, 80ml with fast pour.
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