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Re: Bok
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:13 am
by Bok
DailyTX wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:06 am
Bok
It seems some antique JLZ have very standard Chinese characters of the heart sutra like the one you have while others look like cursive Chinese such as this one:
https://teaswelike.com/product/ju-lun-zhu-carved-zini/
Any idea on the rationale behind these two types of calligraphy?
I guess it's as simple as different styles, workshops or maybe temporary fashions. I also noticed that certain styles of calligraphy always match a certain variation of this shape. Personally, I prefer the less cursive one, the characters are written more nicely. If cursive, I prefer the delicate heart sutra style on the Yamada Jozan teapots.
Re: Bok
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:32 am
by DailyTX
Bok wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:13 am
DailyTX wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:06 am
Bok
It seems some antique JLZ have very standard Chinese characters of the heart sutra like the one you have while others look like cursive Chinese such as this one:
https://teaswelike.com/product/ju-lun-zhu-carved-zini/
Any idea on the rationale behind these two types of calligraphy?
I guess it's as simple as different styles, workshops or maybe temporary fashions. I also noticed that certain styles of calligraphy always match a certain variation of this shape. Personally, I prefer the less cursive one, the characters are written more nicely. If cursive, I prefer the delicate heart sutra style on the Yamada Jozan teapots.
+1 on the Yamaha Jozan. I think the Jozan III pot cost about 4-5 antique JLZ
Re: Bok
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:57 am
by Bok
@DailyTX Jozan II, who used the same guy for calligraphies it seems to me) can be well under 1K, so not too bad actually...
Re: Bok
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:03 pm
by DailyTX
Bok wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:57 am
DailyTX Jozan II, who used the same guy for calligraphies it seems to me) can be well under 1K, so not too bad actually...
@Bok
Maybe one day
Most of my TAD has been on yixing and other Chinese teawares. It’s only this year I started reading more about Japanese teawares and purchased my first tetsubin. Maybe tetsubin will be my bridge to cross over to the world of Japanese teawares. Deciphering Japanese writings and dating Japanese teawares are a different animal lol. I guess something positive is Japanese teawares have less counterfeit, or I just have not seen enough yet haha
Re: Bok
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:42 pm
by Bok
DailyTX wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:03 pm
I guess something positive is Japanese teawares have less counterfeit, or I just have not seen enough yet haha
For sure... The masters are difficult to imitate and for the lower ranks it's probably not really worth it.
Re: Bok
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:23 pm
by Bok
Shall I... ?
Re: Bok
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:56 pm
by pedant
sand the break smooth. nice hohin!
Re: Bok
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:18 pm
by Bok
pedant wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:56 pm
sand the break smooth. nice hohin!
I was thinking that as well...
The clay is way to nice to let it go to waste...
Looks like excellent Qingshuini.
Re: Bok
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:35 pm
by karma
Bok wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:23 pm
Shall I... ?
You should!! I want to see another progress thread.
Re: Bok
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:59 pm
by .m.
70's F1? I say give it a handle from something else, pewter, brass, wood, porcelain...
Re: Bok
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:11 pm
by faj
pedant wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:56 pm
sand the break smooth. nice hohin!
May get hot with boiling water in it though...
Re: Bok
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:45 pm
by Bok
.m. wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:59 pm
70's F1? I say give it a handle from something else, pewter, brass, wood, porcelain...
That is my conclusion as well on both accounts. 70s Qingshuini. I want to try wood, now to the how...
Good thing is if it breaks in the process no tears need to be shed
Re: Bok
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:12 am
by .m.
Nice. Good luck! Please share the result with us when you get to it.
Re: Bok
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:59 pm
by McScooter
Wouldn't it be quite difficult to find a quality, heat resistant adhesive that will make it through thousands of steeps if you do in fact elect to attach a new handle? I would be worried that hitting it with boiling or near boiling water over time will loosen the grip.
I agree that it would be hard to use as a hohin due to heat, but you could turn it into a silly, improvised kyusu relatively easily without having to use adhesive to attach the handle. It's hard to explain what I have in mind, but think of a classic magnifying glass, except instead of having the glass in there, you're essentially resting the teapot inside the ring, which is hopefully tight enough around the belly of the pot to make it a really snug, stable fit. I have actually seen a kyusu made like this, with the handle and ring made of a single piece of some kind of Japanese wood, but can't remember where.
Re: Bok
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:59 pm
by Bok
McScooter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:59 pm
Wouldn't it be quite difficult to find a quality, heat resistant adhesive that will make it through thousands of steeps if you do in fact elect to attach a new handle? I would be worried that hitting it with boiling or near boiling water over time will loosen the grip.
I agree that it would be hard to use as a hohin due to heat, but you could turn it into a silly, improvised kyusu relatively easily without having to use adhesive to attach the handle. It's hard to explain what I have in mind, but think of a classic magnifying glass, except instead of having the glass in there, you're essentially resting the teapot inside the ring, which is hopefully tight enough around the belly of the pot to make it a really snug, stable fit. I have actually seen a kyusu made like this, with the handle and ring made of a single piece of some kind of Japanese wood, but can't remember where.
That’s very good input! I’ll see what works best with what I have available.
In the worst case I was gonna drill a hole and seal with Kintsugi method afterwards to make it water proof again.