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Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:05 pm
by Teas We Like
Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:31 am
by Balthazar
Teas We Like wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:50 pm
StoneLadle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:42 pm
Teas We Like could you elaborate more on what is meant by "raw" Liu Bao ?
Of course! "Raw" liubao does not go through the pile fermentation process that "ripe" liubao goes through, and it's left to get mellower through aging. Thanks for asking!
Light fermentation or no fermentation? I thought "sheng" in the context of heicha usually referred to teas that had underwent shorter/less intense fermentation. So not quite the same as sheng puer. From my own (limited) experience, the raw liubaos I've had has still tasted like they have undergone
some fermentation. Not to say that this couldn't be different.
I also wonder what you mean by referring to this as "traditional" processing. The description of the tea makes it seem like fermented LB is a recent trend.
Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:26 am
by StoneLadle
The used leaves as posted in the link by
@vuanguyen shows a combination of raw looking leaves and cooked leaves.
I just drank a 2017 wild tree Liu Bao with the same used leaf profile.
Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:25 pm
by Teas We Like
Balthazar wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:31 am
Light fermentation or no fermentation? I thought "sheng" in the context of heicha usually referred to teas that had underwent shorter/less intense fermentation. So not quite the same as sheng puer. From my own (limited) experience, the raw liubaos I've had has still tasted like they have undergone
some fermentation. Not to say that this couldn't be different.
I also wonder what you mean by referring to this as "traditional" processing. The description of the tea makes it seem like fermented LB is a recent trend.
Hi! This Liubao did not undergo any wodui. It was steamed and pressed into 40kg baskets. Wodui with spraying the leaves for extra moisture was introduced for liubao processing in the second half of the 20th century. So it is not a "recent trend", but it is relatively newer than the processing without wodui.
StoneLadle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:26 am
The used leaves as posted in the link by vuanguyen shows a combination of raw looking leaves and cooked leaves.
I just drank a 2017 wild tree Liu Bao with the same used leaf profile.
in this Malaysian commission Liu Bao, there are no cooked leaves, but it is a very large basket, so leaves in different parts of the basket (close to the surface vs the core) can age a bit differently.
Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:13 pm
by Balthazar
Teas We Like wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:25 pm
Hi! This Liubao did not undergo any wodui. It was steamed and pressed into 40kg baskets. Wodui with spraying the leaves for extra moisture was introduced for liubao processing in the second half of the 20th century. So it is not a "recent trend", but it is relatively newer than the processing without wodui.
I was also thinking of the other "duis", such as duimen (堆闷), judui (焗堆) and oudui (沤堆). But it may not be accurate to refer to these as "fermentation methods" as such ("fajiao" seems to be used more broadly in Chinese than "fermentation" in English).
In any case, looks like an interesting tea. I don't think I've had any liubao that didn't undergo at least some wodui!
It's a shame Chunghwa Post doesn't seem to have any plans to open shipping to my destination anytime soon
Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:36 am
by Teas We Like
Balthazar wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:13 pm
It's a shame Chunghwa Post doesn't seem to have any plans to open shipping to my destination anytime soon
Yes, we hope shipping resumes soon!
Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:47 pm
by Teas We Like
Time to do some tests with the Qing Shui Ni pot with stone ground clay...
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Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:25 pm
by Victoria
Teas We Like wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:47 pm
Time to do some tests with the Qing Shui Ni pot with stone ground clay...
Where is the like button
Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:39 pm
by Teas We Like
Victoria wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:25 pm
Where is the like button
Here's a view of the clay texture - it's harder to show it in pictures, but on the bottom with a bit of water it shows quite well the different particles...
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Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:59 pm
by Victoria
Super nice!
Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:04 am
by Tor
Would love to hear how does it make tea compare with 60-70s F1 QSN.
Teas We Like wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:47 pm
Time to do some tests with the Qing Shui Ni pot with stone ground clay...
Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:46 pm
by Teas We Like
Tor wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:04 am
Would love to hear how does it make tea compare with 60-70s F1 QSN.
Teas We Like wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:47 pm
Time to do some tests with the Qing Shui Ni pot with stone ground clay...
Based on my tests so far is comparing very well, it is slightly less muting. In terms of clay texture and color it is a bit more similar to a ROC flat julunzhu I have.
Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:52 pm
by faj
Teas We Like wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:11 pm
We have added new modern Yixings to the site. We are excited about these!
If I may ask, do you plan to have other sizes, clay types and/or styles later on?
Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:56 pm
by Teas We Like
faj wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:52 pm
If I may ask, do you plan to have other sizes, clay types and/or styles later on?
Yes, we are working on it!
Re: Teas We Like : By and for Tea Lovers
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:04 pm
by faj
Teas We Like wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:56 pm
faj wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:52 pm
If I may ask, do you plan to have other sizes, clay types and/or styles later on?
Yes, we are working on it!
Pushing my luck a bit, do you have some hints as to what you are thinking about?
