60s F1 Shuiping 60ml FS

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Bok
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Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:53 pm

Made up my mind. The rare little fella I just found is up for adoption.

F1 from 60s, hongni.
Volume 60ml or 3-cup (Taiwan measurement)

Thin walled and with what seems to be very good clay. It turns dark red fast when filled with hot water. A good candidate for high mountain oolong, or any other tea that is so expensive that you prefer to enjoy in small quantities.

Obviously, it won’t come cheap and due diligence should be done, so please feel free to ask an expert of your trust in regards to authenticity. I did so myself with the people that I have at hand.

I prefer to pass this pot to the community here, so for now I’ll only offer it on teaforum. I will only ship via EMS to be on the safe side, as this is precious cargo...

Adoption fee is 625USD +shipping
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If you need other detail shots let me know!
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:23 am

great pot! cross-linking: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=703

do you know if it's a flat bottom or gutter bottom? just curious.
can you please share a pic of the bottom interior?
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:37 am

pedant wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:23 am
do you know if it's a flat bottom or gutter bottom? just curious.
can you please share a pic of the bottom interior?
Not sure what you mean? concave/convex bottom? Or do you mean the tiny depression around the edge where body and bottom are joined? If so, it does have that characteristic.

The only other picture I have on me now is the one attached (that was before boiling off the wax coating), is that sufficient?
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:18 am

yes. refers to the bottom of the interior of the pot and is described in Dr. Lu's "Early tea pots II" fb group. here's a link to the article: https://www.facebook.com/groups/teapot2 ... 194659046/
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:22 am

pedant wrote:
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yes. refers to the bottom of the interior of the pot and is described in Dr. Lu's "Early tea pots II" fb group.
Link does not seem to work, but I got the book as well :mrgreen:
This characteristic is of course one of the identifying features of a 60-70s pot.
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:32 am

my untrained eye has trouble judging the curvature from only one perspective (especially directly overhead), but it looks like a flat base (平底) to me.

i was just chatting with @steanze about this, but he didn't see your most recent pic of the interior. anyways..

flat base was produced mid to late 60s.

in the 60s:
  • gutter base (溝底) came both before and after flat base, and there was also some production overlap.
  • 6-character seals came before 4-character seals
  • therefore there are both flat and gutter base versions of 6-char and 4-char
Bok wrote:
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pedant wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:18 am
yes. refers to the bottom of the interior of the pot and is described in Dr. Lu's "Early tea pots II" fb group.
Link does not seem to work, but I got the book as well :mrgreen:
it's a closed fb group. you have to join it first before you can see that post.
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:02 am

pedant wrote:
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it's a closed fb group. you have to join it first before you can see that post.
Weird, I am in that group... maybe a bug.
@pedant on second click it worked!
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:04 am

dunno. if you look in the list of articles, it's the one called "5.早期壺入門之二:平底VS溝底 Flat bottom vs ditch bottom"
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:23 am

So, back home I had a closer look, the inside is definitely curving upwards. Becomes more obvious when feeling for it. I have tried to take a snap of it, but it is really tricky to find the right angle and light to show it...
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:49 pm

great pot either way, i was just curious :)

btw:
steanze wrote:if I had to guess would say gutter but hard to tell without feeling it. There are some flat bottom pots that have a "ring" like that around the base, it was used to strengthen the attachment between the bottom and the sides.

in my view it does not matter much in terms of the value and performance of the pot if it's flat or gutter tbh
unless you're collecting and you already have one type so you'd like one with a different type
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Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:06 am

This pot is rather photogenic I’d say...
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Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:22 am

Beautiful pictures...
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Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:07 pm

Adoption fee lowered to 590$ plus shipping.
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