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Hand made silver pots?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:27 pm
by Chadrinkincat
I’ve been considering getting into making metal teapots with the hopes of eventually making some in 99% silver in shui ping/bale ROC/f1 styles.

Anyone know much about making silver pots? Or have links to relevant info for them?

Re: Hand made silver pots?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:39 pm
by Ragamuffin
That sounds really cool! I'm not a fan of the gaudy decorations on most of the silver teapots that I've seen.

I don't know anything about making them though; do you have any experience with metal casting?

Re: Hand made silver pots?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:51 pm
by Bok
I remember seeing someone in Taiwan having a fb page and doing just that, need to look it up.

Has become quite the trend in Taiwan, hammered little silver ware, mostly spoons, cups etc.

I think that is how one would create those, by hammering. Japan would be the other place I’d look for information.

Re: Hand made silver pots?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:23 am
by pedant
idk about hammering out a shuiping lol

i think this is what you'd do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost-wax_casting

Re: Hand made silver pots?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:33 am
by There is no self
Unless you have the means to melt metal (not to mention patience and skills), your best option is heating and hammering pieces of silver. It gives you control over the material and it's easier to correct mistakes. It's a method employed by many smiths when forging historical weapons (replica or otherwise).

Re: Hand made silver pots?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:24 am
by Chadrinkincat
pedant wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:23 am
idk about hammering out a shuiping lol

i think this is what you'd do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost-wax_casting
I originally thought of casting a replacement lid for one of my pots but than came across some videos of raising hollow vessels. It seems like a better option. It would be pretty cool to do exact casting from an actual f1 pot though.

I think spout/handle would be formed separately and solder onto body.

Re: Hand made silver pots?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:25 am
by Chadrinkincat
Bok wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:51 pm
I remember seeing someone in Taiwan having a fb page and doing just that, need to look it up.

Has become quite the trend in Taiwan, hammered little silver ware, mostly spoons, cups etc.

I think that is how one would create those, by hammering. Japan would be the other place I’d look for information.
Post that link if you come across it.

Re: Hand made silver pots?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:30 am
by Chadrinkincat
Ragamuffin wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:39 pm
That sounds really cool! I'm not a fan of the gaudy decorations on most of the silver teapots that I've seen.

I don't know anything about making them though; do you have any experience with metal casting?
Most of the readily available silver pots are pretty tacky. Not should I would even pay scrap metal prices for one. I’ll bet there are a lot of really nice ones in Asia that never make it onto western vendors sites.

No experience with metal but I’m creative and good with small detail projects so it’s possible I could eventually make one that half way decent.

Re: Hand made silver pots?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:47 am
by Bok
There are indeed, Japan has some really nice ones, in Taiwan I have seen them as well, in classic Yixing shapes. But they are expensive. The next trouble is that you need really excellent tea to match it with! Silver is unforgiving in that sense.

I once used water boiled in an antique silver kettle with a clay pot, brought out some not so nice aspects of the tea I was brewing.

Re: Hand made silver pots?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:28 am
by Brent D

Re: Hand made silver pots?

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:30 am
by Bok
Found the site I was talking about as well: https://www.facebook.com/%E6%A8%B8%E4%B ... yhNOSrUYsw

Re: Hand made silver pots?

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:26 pm
by .m.
I've been toying with the same idea, but i don't think i'll ever make one. I'd start with copper to learn how to form it by hammering. I suppose that a lot of the technique could be transferred to silver. But shui-ping wont be easy. Anyway if you manage to make a nice pot in copper, you can always get it silverplated. Please keep us posted, i'd love to see your creations.