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Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:16 pm
by GailC
teatray wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:07 pm
Cute, versatile pot. Hope you discover lots of good tea with it!
It ended up being garage. It dribbles everywhere, from the spout and the lid.
Seems its just a bad design. Its cute though and looks good in the cabinet.
I have a glass pot on the way, maybe it will be better
Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:36 pm
by Baisao
GailC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:16 pm
teatray wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:07 pm
Cute, versatile pot. Hope you discover lots of good tea with it!
It ended up being garage. It dribbles everywhere, from the spout and the lid.
Seems its just a bad design. Its cute though and looks good in the cabinet.
I have a glass pot on the way, maybe it will be better
@GailC, the teapots made by Inge Nielsen are not expensive and are very well made. I use mine as my assessment teapot since it brews neutrally.
@klepto loves his as well.
https://ingenielsenpottery.com/
Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 6:40 pm
by teatray
@GailC Oh, too bad. Finding the perfect small porcelain pot is not easy, I am still on the quest. I also don't like uncomfy small lid knobs as I often brew boiling hot (ideally, I would prefer holding the lid while pouring, instead of resting it somewhere b/c it's too hot). My Inge Nielsen is pretty bad in that department, at least for me (glove size L/XL). My M&L Jingdezhen pot from a few posts above is better in that respect (though still not perfect), which is one of the reasons I prefer using it. But I won't give a recommendation for the product or the seller b/c of the issues mentioned. Both pots are much better than the widely available Taiwanese pots you can get from T-M or TTC (I have the T-M, someone else here had the TTC, both dribble and seem to alter taste).
Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:50 am
by LeoFox
GailC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:16 pm
teatray wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:07 pm
Cute, versatile pot. Hope you discover lots of good tea with it!
It ended up being garage. It dribbles everywhere, from the spout and the lid.
Seems its just a bad design. Its cute though and looks good in the cabinet.
I have a glass pot on the way, maybe it will be better
Could be how you are pouring. It took me several months to get the hang of this f1 pot. Pour slowly but not too slowly - let the pot guide you (if you see water from lid, then too fast; if you sew water dribble down spout, then you too slow).
Too many people think fast pour is the expert way. To me, It is the clown way
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjIumHop ... A0ZTI1NzA=
Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:19 am
by Janice
I’ve been feeling the need for a small porcelain pot to supplement the larger ones I bought from Seong-Il years ago. This thread, and a discount coupon from Etsy, inspired me to buy an Inge Nielsen porcelain pot. It’s only 80 ml, and I’m a big fan of a crackled celadon glaze.
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Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:57 pm
by debunix
Nice! I've was admiring that one in her Etsy feed.
Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:35 pm
by Julie
Janice wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:19 am
I’ve been feeling the need for a small porcelain pot to supplement the larger ones I bought from Seong-Il years ago. This thread, and a discount coupon from Etsy, inspired me to buy an Inge Nielsen porcelain pot. It’s only 80 ml, and I’m a big fan of a crackled celadon glaze.
Great pot! I love celadon and glad to learn of Inge Nielson's Etsy store.
Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:46 pm
by Janice
My Inge Nielsen pot arrived today. Naturally I had to try it out immediately. The only Chinese green I have right now is a small bag of Lu’an Gia Pian, which I’m not familiar with. I’ll need to experiment with different times/temperatures but I know from my first session that the pot is a pleasure to use. The handle and lid make this a comfortable pot to hold even with hot water, and the pour is clean and fast. I think the lid knob is too small to use to remove the lid from the pot, but the design of the lid makes it comfortable to grip from the edges so there’s no problem there.
I paired the pot with a celadon cup I bought in Chiangmai. The cup is thicker than the pot so it’s comfortable to hold when filled with hot tea.
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Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:50 pm
by Ethan Kurland
Janice wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:46 pm
I paired the pot with a celadon cup I bought in Chiangmai. The cup is thicker than the pot so it’s comfortable to hold when filled with hot tea.
I have the same cup from Chiangmai.
I have never found a proper small celadon teapot there. I'll search again this winter when I'll be there for 2 weeks.
Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:00 pm
by Janice
You get to spend more time there than I do. During my second visit I went to Baan Celadon. The work was more elegant, and more expensive, but the pots were still much too large for me. What tea would you brew in a pot as thick as the cup?
Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:20 pm
by Baisao
Janice wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:46 pm
My Inge Nielsen pot arrived today. Naturally I had to try it out immediately. The only Chinese green I have right now is a small bag of Lu’an Gia Pian, which I’m not familiar with. I’ll need to experiment with different times/temperatures but I know from my first session that the pot is a pleasure to use. The handle and lid make this a comfortable pot to hold even with hot water, and the pour is clean and fast. I think the lid knob is too small to use to remove the lid from the pot, but the design of the lid makes it comfortable to grip from the edges so there’s no problem there.
I think she is underrated. Her pots have the cleanest and fastest pour I've experienced. The simple shapes and neutral glazing are ideal for tea.
@klepto is also a fan of her work.
Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:27 pm
by WhisperingFrog192
I found these gorgeous porcelain teacups at a thrift store a while back. No idea as to their origin, think maybe Japanese but could be wrong.
Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:09 am
by LeoFox
This one is claimed to be an edo period soba noodle cup - not sure how old it really is but seems appropriate for sencha. Seems to have some dark marks on it that resisted baking soda and soap- if a percarbonate soak Cleans this up-will update this post. Based on what I have learned (see below) - this seems to be a relatively old cup.
Update: percarbonate didn't do anything
These soba cups or soba choko have a bit of history:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soba_choko
Dating Edo period Edo era (ko-Imari) soba choko production falls into three distinct periods, Shoki period (1620–1720), Chuki period (1721–1788) and Koki period (1789–1867). Each period characterised design, shape and style transformation. Within in each era there are exceptions in hallmark designs and shapes.
Shoki period soba choko (1620-1720 - Genwa-Kyoho eras) generally featured poorer quality, often disfigured, thick sides and bases with oxide assuming a washed out appearance through thicker clear glaze. As the era progressed refinements and higher quality finishes become the norm. Traditional design were simple hand painted and also used stencils/stamping known as inban. The soba choko was generally heavy in feel. The shape and design were stable and featured similar base, oxide designs and patterning.
Chuki period soba choko (1720–1788) saw a rapid progression of designs and intricate patterns. Kiln stamps appeared and the quality of glazes and porcelain bodies improved. These early to mid era choko featured thin bases and rims, no kiln/era marks (Mikomi-moyo) and no top inner border markings (Renzoku mon). It was only in the last few years of Chuki leading into the Koki period did kiln marks and seals, top inner border patterns start to evolve.
Koki period soba choko spanned the final 78 years of Edo (1789–1867). The period is the easiest to identify. The underside base featured an 'eyeball' style circle (Janome kodai), used kiln marks, had decorative inner borders and also featured at time decorative top rims.
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Designs were hand painted or stenciled in freeform, embedded in frames or placed within bands. Four main design categories were used and included:
Plants - symbolising prosperity, health and long life
Landscapes - sea, mountains, temples, garden scenes
Mingei - geometrics, repeating patterns, seasonal images such as harvests
Animals - horses, fish, birds, bats, turtles, seaweed, clams and dragons
Certain designs today are highly sought by collectors and usually center around animal design and highly ornate polychrome choko as productions numbers were limited and are very difficult to source today.
Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:45 pm
by Andrew S
@LeoFox: your soba cup reminds me of two little cups that I've been using (I don't really know their age or origin, though).
One of them looks a little bit like yours on the inside, but more on one side than the other, whereas the other one is clean and smooth, so I assume that it's something to do with how it was fired.
Andrew
Re: The Porcelain Thread
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:20 pm
by Bok
Andrew S wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:45 pm
(I don't really know their age or origin, though).
Japanese, similar age.