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tea spoon vs scale?

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:06 pm
by phier
hello,
i have plenty of tea where measurement per cup is most of the time written as 1 tea spoon per cup. For such a tea is it a good idea to have spoon as

https://www.exoticteapot.co.uk/teaware/ ... ring-spoon

example tea>

thanks

Re: tea spoon

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:55 pm
by klepto
When you get further into loose leaf teas, everything is measured by the gram.

Re: tea spoon

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:02 pm
by Youzi
I'd just get a 0.1g pocket scale instead.

Re: tea spoon

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:06 pm
by klepto
Youzi wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:02 pm
I'd just get a 0.1g pocket scale instead.
That is the way to go, if you like I can send you a link to the one I own. It saves you time and cuts down on mistakes due to using too much leaf without experience.

Re: tea spoon

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:43 pm
by phier
@klepto could you pls share the one you have?

well thats what i was thinking... its about grams, then i am wondering why manufacturers dont put number of grams per cup instead of 1cp/cup

thanks

Re: tea spoon

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:11 pm
by Victoria
This is the scale I like using: AWS Series Digital Pocket Weight Scale 1kg x 0.1g, (Black), AWS-1KG-BLK by JBTools

Re: tea spoon

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:20 pm
by phier
Victoria i have similar for a coffee preparation ... in that case all i need is some "container" for a measurement

Re: tea spoon

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:34 pm
by Victoria
phier wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:20 pm
Victoria i have similar for a coffee preparation ... in that case all i need is some "container" for a measurement
Any container that will easily pour out the leaves can be used. If you don’t preheat your teapot you can measure dry leaf directly inside the teapot. I preheat mine so I like use a Yuzamashi (water cooler) that is my avatar. I also use a fine brush to get all the small fragments into the teapot. I think in an earlier post you were looking for a kyusu and cups, if you search on eBay under antiques/Asian/Japan/teapot you will find sets that include kyusu, 5 cups, and yuzamashi with the original box. Here is a discussion regarding those kyusu sets.

Re: tea spoon

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:01 pm
by LeoFox
phier wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:20 pm
Victoria i have similar for a coffee preparation ... in that case all i need is some "container" for a measurement
I tend to use the small porcelain cup i intend to drink from for this purpose. Cheap and less stuff to wash

Re: tea spoon

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:09 pm
by Victoria
LeoFox wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:01 pm
phier wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:20 pm
Victoria i have similar for a coffee preparation ... in that case all i need is some "container" for a measurement
I tend to use the small porcelain cup i intend to drink from for this purpose. Cheap and less stuff to wash
That is a clever way to go @LeoFox. Some people like using a tea scoop that also makes it easy to get dry leaf into the teapot. This one is from Tea Trekker.

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Re: tea spoon vs scale?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:19 pm
by pedant
@phier i moved this topic to the teaware area. i think some of your other posts were moved or merged as deemed appropriate by other mods for organizational reasons. sorry for the confusion. just in case you're wondering where they are, either click Activity at the top of the page to see active discussions, or click here to see all your posts.

due to different leaf shapes and sizes, different teas have different densities. a scoop of one tea won't weigh the same as another, and that can result in unexpected flavor and strength differences.

i've seen a couple of really nice photos that people have prepared that beautifully demonstrate this, but i can't find any right now.
if anyone has one, please share.

Re: tea spoon vs scale?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:37 pm
by Victoria
Then there is a Cha He (tea holder) made of many materials like porcelain, metal, and wood. This one looks very nice;
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and this one too
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Re: tea spoon vs scale?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:47 pm
by phier
@Victoria not sure for what is Yuzamashi (water cooler) good for, as i can set desired temperature directly on the kettle.

Re: tea spoon vs scale?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:50 pm
by Victoria
pedant wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:19 pm
due to different leaf shapes and sizes, different teas have different densities. a scoop of one tea won't weigh the same as another, and that can result in unexpected flavor and strength differences.

i've seen a couple of really nice photos that people have prepared that beautifully demonstrate this, but i can't find any right now.
if anyone has one, please share.
I think @debunix posted an image showing different teas by gram weight somewhere. Here is an example showing 3 grams of six different teas;

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Re: tea spoon vs scale?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:01 pm
by Victoria
phier wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:47 pm
Victoria not sure for what is Yuzamashi (water cooler) good for, as i can set desired temperature directly on the kettle.
Right that’s the same reason I use mine to measure dry leaf mostly. Traditionally, before the introduction of scales and variable temperature control kettles, the yuzamashi was used to cool off boil water, between kyusu and cups.