The Porcelain Thread

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teatray
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Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:36 am

Got a new Jingdezhen qinghua (blue and white) pot a few weeks ago, via Superbuy (tmall link: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=803653142792).

studio: Chengdexuan, vol: 100ml (to the brim)

The painter doesn't seem as skilled as the one who did the reference pot in the tmall photo (wonky bridge, flagellated stones, water serpents instead of serpentines, mountain boobs, etc.).
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But the pot still manages to be striking somehow, mostly due to the intensity of the blue. It's by far the cheapest pot available from the company's tmall store, so maybe that explains the painting. At least I can be sure it's hand painted :mrgreen:

The lid hole doesn't reach the top of the knob but bends sideways. Looks gimmicky but works well for me, avoiding the need for finger tactics when things get very hot.
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Overall, it feels nice & makes good tea. I thought maybe it'd be too small (cooling too quickly) for my high mountain oolong sessions but no issues so far. If anything, I concentrate more on the taste and aromas when drinking smaller cups than what I'm used to with my 140ml M&L pot.

It's less translucent than the M&L pot and a bit heavier (but, unlike M&L's pot, doesn't feature a large hole at the bottom of the filter, so it's more versatile):
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The blue is very pleasant, even if the pics can't quite show it.
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Comparing them side-by-side makes me wonder whether the M&L pot is truly hand painted? Guess I'll never know :D

Looks like it will become my goto pot for most teas, along with the M&L. I seem to prefer porcelain for anything other than sencha.

Is it worth the price? Probably not, if you're happy with a cheaper porcelain pot. But if you're bothered by the rough, porous unglazed clay around lid/rim of AliExpress & similar porcelain pots (that can be smelly, too), bad pour/surface imperfections, etc.--this is a nice upgrade. The snow white bare clay around rim/lid is even smoother than M&L's pot--it can be difficult to tell it's not glazed. I guess you can have these things (sans the painting) for just a couple of bucks, if you know exactly where to source it, but I don't (& like the blue paintings), so it works for me.

Got a cheap Zheng Shan Tang-branded Dehua gawain to travel along with this pot (tmall link: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=643889964570). Best gaiwan I've used by far--widely flared, no burns, and with a pleasant pour (didn't know gaiwans could have a nice pour but this one has). Looks identical to one recommended on this forum previously, sold by TWL (but sold out)--even if TWL's says JDZ (not Dehua).
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Sat Jan 03, 2026 5:58 am

Happy New 2026 everyone!
Let’s enjoy getting a little bit more antique😅
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Sun Jan 04, 2026 9:01 pm

teatray wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:36 am
Got a new Jingdezhen qinghua (blue and white) pot a few weeks ago, via Superbuy (tmall link: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=803653142792).

studio: Chengdexuan, vol: 100ml (to the brim)

The painter doesn't seem as skilled as the one who did the reference pot in the tmall photo (wonky bridge, flagellated stones, water serpents instead of serpentines, mountain boobs, etc.).
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But the pot still manages to be striking somehow, mostly due to the intensity of the blue. It's by far the cheapest pot available from the company's tmall store, so maybe that explains the painting. At least I can be sure it's hand painted :mrgreen:

The lid hole doesn't reach the top of the knob but bends sideways. Looks gimmicky but works well for me, avoiding the need for finger tactics when things get very hot.
Image


Overall, it feels nice & makes good tea. I thought maybe it'd be too small (cooling too quickly) for my high mountain oolong sessions but no issues so far. If anything, I concentrate more on the taste and aromas when drinking smaller cups than what I'm used to with my 140ml M&L pot.

It's less translucent than the M&L pot and a bit heavier (but, unlike M&L's pot, doesn't feature a large hole at the bottom of the filter, so it's more versatile):
Image


The blue is very pleasant, even if the pics can't quite show it.
Image

Comparing them side-by-side makes me wonder whether the M&L pot is truly hand painted? Guess I'll never know :D

Looks like it will become my goto pot for most teas, along with the M&L. I seem to prefer porcelain for anything other than sencha.

Is it worth the price? Probably not, if you're happy with a cheaper porcelain pot. But if you're bothered by the rough, porous unglazed clay around lid/rim of AliExpress & similar porcelain pots (that can be smelly, too), bad pour/surface imperfections, etc.--this is a nice upgrade. The snow white bare clay around rim/lid is even smoother than M&L's pot--it can be difficult to tell it's not glazed. I guess you can have these things (sans the painting) for just a couple of bucks, if you know exactly where to source it, but I don't (& like the blue paintings), so it works for me.

Got a cheap Zheng Shan Tang-branded Dehua gawain to travel along with this pot (tmall link: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=643889964570). Best gaiwan I've used by far--widely flared, no burns, and with a pleasant pour (didn't know gaiwans could have a nice pour but this one has). Looks identical to one recommended on this forum previously, sold by TWL (but sold out)--even if TWL's says JDZ (not Dehua).
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The western market ( buyers ) always surprising me! When we were in Jingdezhen ( please see the blog , if interested ) , I told my wife , there is no way that any foreigner would buy a porcelain teware for 200$ , no matter how I photograph it , describe it and advertise it. Then I see this post ;-) Buying quite expensive piece which doesn't correspond with presented photograph and receiving something about what not being sure it's even hand painted with conclusion that probably not worth that much money. And on top of that , buying from TM ( which I assumed, for foreigners it is the platform for sourcing very cheap stuff but not some artisan pieces ).
In general , when people buying such a things from western facing vendor , it precedes tons of emails ( questions and additional photographs with assurance the stuff is real hand painted ) and if something is not right after receiving the goods, another bunch of complaining messages with discount or refund demands , followed by the post on some platform like Reedit " disappointed with vendor this and that " ( sometimes people posting it even before contacting the vendor to resolve the issue and even opening the Paypal case - refund , which in this case could be kinda valid as " I received not the item I bought coz differ from photograph ) .
Please note , I'm not talking about you but in general experience with selling abroad.
We haven't bought much in Jingdezhen for exactly the reason. Not sure if it actually worth the money and would western buyers willing to spend that much for the feel of art only ( because the function is same with $$ piece. )
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Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:33 am

i_viter wrote:
Sat Jan 03, 2026 5:58 am
Happy New 2026 everyone!
Let’s enjoy getting a little bit more antique😅
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Lovely old cups!
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Mon Jan 05, 2026 11:02 am

Bok wrote:
Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:33 am
i_viter wrote:
Sat Jan 03, 2026 5:58 am
Happy New 2026 everyone!
Let’s enjoy getting a little bit more antique😅
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Lovely old cups!
Thank you! These are nice indeed, and it was fun to collect the lineup of sizes from the teabowl to the small 30ml cup
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