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Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:57 pm

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Bok I see your point yes BUT it is the small backhandled one :D, I have his 200 ml kyusu which is great for senchas but would love to have a smaller one to try other teas in this clay too so will pull the trigger in a few days. I spent quite a lot for pots this year and am slowing down a bit. I was collecting mainly European artists particularly Jiri Duchek’s teaware and his experimental series of four different pots with four different clays he found on his property. I was buying some yixing too and now I am slowly returning back to Japan and in few months I will definitely add some Sou’s items to my collection. Because of this forum I learned that Japan has a lot more to offer than just tokoname and banko clay and I am thrilled to get to know them better. Thnx guys.
I love my backhandle Emu kyusu. It is a master piece in design, function, and clay used. I make sure to sit down with it and handle very carefully. @lUKAV28 which Yamada are you looking for Sou, Jozan IV, III ? Will you be in Tokoname or purchasing online? Also, I would love to see your teaware collection. Maybe you can share your European pots over at Teaware/Additional Regions.

Here are a few of my Yamada family shudei kyusu. Photo and descriptions curtesy of @phyllsheng.

Clockwise (starting from the teapot on the top at 12 o'clock position)

1. Jozan Yamada III (Minoru Yamada 1924-2005) 280ml
2. Jozan Yamada IV (Emu Yamada 1954- present) 250ml
3. Sou Yamada (1979 - present) 150ml

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Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:40 pm

@Victoria some lovely pieces you’ve got there. I noticed all are shudei pots. May I ask if they differentiate from wood fired in the type of clay too? I understand they are using Shigaraki clay — or at least Sou does?

Mine will definitely be Sou’s as other are a bit too expensive for my pocket. I am already eyeing pieces at Toru’s and Takeyoshi’s site. I usually buy Japanese teaware from one of them and will probably do the same this time.

Otherwise I would love to share my pieces of teaware once I unpack them as we were renovating the apartment not so long ago. Living off of gaiwan right now :oops:. But sure will gladly do in the near future.
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:59 pm

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Victoria some lovely pieces you’ve got there. I noticed all are shudei pots. May I ask if they differentiate from wood fired in the type of clay too? I understand they are using Shigaraki clay — or at least Sou does?

Mine will definitely be Sou’s as other are a bit too expensive for my pocket. I am already eyeing pieces at Toru’s and Takeyoshi’s site. I usually buy Japanese teaware from one of them and will probably do the same this time.
Yes, you are right the mayake (wood fired) kyusu I think are made with shigaraki clay, not shudei. I have two by Sou and they are lighter than the shudei ones I have. I love using them both with high fired oolong. You might ask Asako Isobe if she has any Sou kyusu. She’s right in Tokoname, has a large teaware shop, represents Yamada kiln, Hokujo and many other local craftsmen. I chat with her over at FB Messenger. She also has an online boutique shop, isobe.shop-pro.jp but not sure how up to date it is, so ask her if she has what you want. If you contact her, let her know I sent you and you are a TeaForum member. Happy hunting, you’ve already elevated my TAD :) .

Here’s a Yamada Sou haul Asako had a while ago.
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:25 pm

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Yes, you are right the mayake (wood fired) kyusu I think are made with shigaraki clay, not shudei. I have two by Sou and they are lighter than the shudei ones I have. I love using them both with high fired oolong. You might ask Asako Isobe if she has any Sou kyusu. She’s right in Tokoname, has a large teaware shop, represents Yamada kiln, Hokujo and many other local craftsmen. I chat with her over at FB Messenger. She also has an online boutique shop, isobe.shop-pro.jp but not sure how up to date it is. If you contact her, let her know I sent you and you are a TeaForum member. Happy hunting, you’ve already elevated my TAD :) .
@Victoria thnx and I am really thankful for the contact <3. It will definitely come in handy.
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:32 pm

+1 for Asako Isobe. She is incredibly friendly and helpful.

I think @pedant is correct on all points. While I enjoy using Jozan III kyusu and appreciate their craftsmanship, I feel that Emu Yamada (Jozan IV) is next level. I haven’t used Sou’s kyusu but I hope he took the same approach as his father in making dribble-proof spouts.
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+1 for Asako Isobe. She is incredibly friendly and helpful.

I think pedant is correct on all points. While I enjoy using Jozan III kyusu and appreciate their craftsmanship, I feel that Emu Yamada (Jozan IV) is next level. I haven’t used Sou’s kyusu but I hope he took the same approach as his father in making dribble-proof spouts.
While I am far from being knowledgeable in Japanese tea wares, its lore and everything that they entail, I must admit that when I held @Victoria's Jozan IV's teapot, I felt a certain raw natural energy that has somehow been tempered skillfully and with visioned craftsmanship. It's hard to describe. I was enamored by it!

His elder Jozan III's teapot is undoubtedly very refined and precisely crafted -- a wonder to see and hold -- but without the raw earthy powerful energy that the Jozan IV's teapot radiated when held. Jozan III's teapot is pure refinement.

Image: Jozan IV's teapot, from a slightly angled side profile view.

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Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:18 pm

Wow, @phyllsheng powerful comments and image. Exactly how I feel about Emu. Your capture speaks volumes. Speechless.
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Wow, phyllsheng powerful comments and image. Exactly how I feel about Emu. Your capture speaks volumes. Speechless.
Thank YOU, @Victoria!
I had to ask you for a magnifying glass, and took my time staring at all the details of that Jozan IV teapot :geek: :D
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Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:17 pm

I wasn't sure where to post this, but I thought this thread might be interested in this pot since the artist was an apprentice:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Y0080-Japanese ... SwbbtdU3GD

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Here is another pot that appears to be by the same artist according to the mark:
https://www.artisticnippon.com/product/ ... shiji.html

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by Watanabe Nobuyasu of Yamashichi kiln who learned his craft from Yamada Jozan III
The mark also appears on tokoname.or.jp: http://www.tokoname.or.jp/teapot/stamp/

The artist is also mentioned at the bottom of the Jozan Kiln Family page: http://www.tokoname.or.jp/teapot/maker_ ... n_kiln.htm
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Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:25 pm

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Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:17 pm
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I thought this thread might be interested in this pot since the artist was an apprentice:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Y0080-Japanese ... SwbbtdU3GD

Here is a pot that appears to be by the same artist according to the stamp:
https://www.artisticnippon.com/product/ ... shiji.html
by Watanabe Nobuyasu of Yamashichi kiln who learned his craft from Yamada Jozan III
The stamp also appears on tokoname.or.jp, and the artist is mentioned at the bottom of the Jozan Kiln Family page.
That's a fine looking teapot. You can clearly tell he studied under Jozan III, or at least was trying to emulate him. The thumbprint on the spout is nice. I see these thumbprint smudges on Jozan III pots, usually near the signature/mark, so I am sure it is intentional.
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Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:22 pm

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That's a fine looking teapot. You can clearly tell he studied under Jozan III, or at least was trying to emulate him. The thumbprint on the spout is nice. I see these thumbprint smudges on Jozan III pots, usually near the signature/mark, so I am sure it is intentional.
I didn't catch the thumbprint until you mentioned it! That's a nice touch. Upon second inspection there is one on the mark of the pot from Artistic Nippon.
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Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:21 pm

🔗crosslinking a topic about a jozan kiln pot: viewtopic.php?t=1148
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Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:13 am

nasalfrog wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:17 pm
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I thought this thread might be interested in this pot since the artist was an apprentice:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Y0080-Japanese ... SwbbtdU3GD
I have one too! :D nice pots, thin walled
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Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:08 pm

I don’t know if this is the right thread for this but it is the largest Yamada thread so yeah ... Not so happy day for me today after all. I was really looking forward to receive my first Yamada pots, shudei and blue one. Sadly the handle of the blue one break during the transfer. I am devastated :(((. I don’t know if it was the poor packaging as the box was unattached. I don’t know what to do. Is there a way to fix this?
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Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:43 pm

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I don’t know if this is the right thread for this but it is the largest Yamada thread so yeah ... Not so happy day for me today after all. I was really looking forward to receive my first Yamada pots, shudei and blue one. Sadly the handle of the blue one break during the transfer. I am devastated :(((. I don’t know if it was the poor packaging as the box was unattached. I don’t know what to do. Is there a way to fix this?
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Ouch, can you return to sender and be refunded? If not, then I recommend repairing with J-B Weld ‘Clear Weld’, or a silver repair but that needs to be done professionally.
You might post further repair questions in either an existing JB Weld topic
And look at this pinned thread Teaware Repair Show-off
As well as Chipped my F1 hongni
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