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Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:44 pm
by OCTO
Here's a challenging thought to challenge you imagination ....
Everyone knows Kobiwako's ability to bring out the sweetness in Japanese greens and also Taiwanese greens. But in the itch to explore and to think beyond the norm, I explored drinking my breakfast black coffee with Kobiwako cups.
Outcome: It's awesome!! hahahaha... I've also exchanged some notes with Hojo employees and they also agreed with the outcome I achieved. I have finished 13 bags of beans and halfway through 2 more... each bags are 125g. The outcome is consistent. You can taste better layering of aroma and taste. It doesn't make it sweeter, but it brings out the complexity of the brew and highlights and brings more focus to each layers. Very interesting!!
Brew Method: French Press and PourOver (V60 and Kalita)
Feeling adventurous??? Anyone wants to try??.... Let's share notes. Hahahaha......
Cheers!!

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Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:44 am
by Balthazar
I commend your adventurous spirit

. That's something I wouldn't have thought of trying in a few lifetimes.
Your post also reminded me that I've been wanting to get a Kobiwako clay pot for some time, and now I have a case of acute TAD to battle..
Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:33 am
by OCTO
Balthazar wrote: βSat Sep 05, 2020 1:44 am
I commend your adventurous spirit

. That's something I wouldn't have thought of trying in a few lifetimes.
Your post also reminded me that I've been wanting to get a Kobiwako clay pot for some time, and now I have a case of acute TAD to battle..
@Balthazar
You should get a Kobiwako... you won't regret it. None that have gotten them have ever regretted it. Tell you what.... you may end up getting more... hahahahaha...... Kobiwako with DanCong and GuShu is **ahem**



..... I'm sure you can fill in the blanks.... hahahahaha.....
Cheers!
Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:44 am
by Balthazar
I gave away two (modern) yixing pots last week, to justify the purchase of two pots.
There's a fierce debate in my mind's committee right now, but I think the wiser members will come out on top this time around. They'll be allowed to use violence if necessary to keep the more impulsive members in check

Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:11 am
by OCTO
Balthazar wrote: βSat Sep 05, 2020 4:44 am
I gave away two (modern) yixing pots last week, to justify the purchase of two pots.
There's a fierce debate in my mind's committee right now, but I think the wiser members will come out on top this time around. They'll be allowed to use violence if necessary to keep the more impulsive members in check
Hahahaha..... That's a constant battle we are all too familiar with..... March ON!!
Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:17 am
by wave_code
how is the heat retention of Kobiwako? makes me wonder what it would do for shu or liu bao. while I guess most japanese pots won't be built with heat in mind the clays are just so gorgeous. as you have done though maybe big cups are a good place to start.
Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:40 am
by OCTO
wave_code wrote: βSat Sep 05, 2020 5:17 am
how is the heat retention of Kobiwako? makes me wonder what it would do for shu or liu bao. while I guess most japanese pots won't be built with heat in mind the clays are just so gorgeous. as you have done though maybe big cups are a good place to start.
@wave_code
As you have guessed correctly, Kobiwako is more suitable for teas on the greener side. I would recommend that you try Mumyoi Clay from Sado Island. Brews up a storm with LiuBao and aged sheng. Works well with aged shou too but I had better outcome with other clay.
Cheers!
Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:42 am
by Bok
What we can see here is: never ask
@OCTO a question, all you get is awareness of more things you did not know you wanted.

Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:47 am
by OCTO
Bok wrote: βSat Sep 05, 2020 5:42 am
What we can see here is: never ask OCTO a question, all you get is awareness of more things you did not know you wanted.
LOL!! ROTFL!! Like I've always and consistently said..... Good things must share. Knowledge must be translated into action....



Cheers!!
Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:00 am
by wave_code
well in this particular case I've been curious about Japanese clays for fermented Chinese teas for a while, so first hand reports from someone else are more than welcome. granted there is always some potential wallet damage involved with any advice on this forum, but prices on modern Japanese pots when you compare to vintage Yixing... suddenly things don't look so bad. though maybe the suggestion that it would be a futile pursuit would be better

Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:02 am
by Balthazar
Bok wrote: βSat Sep 05, 2020 5:42 am
What we can see here is: never ask OCTO a question, all you get is awareness of more things you did not know you wanted.
After reading your post I couldn't resist making one of these (cringeworthy or not)
Seriously though, I continue to be impressed by
@OCTO's breadth of exposure to and experimentation with different types of clay.

Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:12 am
by OCTO
@Balthazar
LOL!!!.... It's an adventure... I'm still learning....
Cheers!!
Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:34 am
by wave_code
did those cups come from Hojo?
I stopped drinking coffee completely a few years ago, but if one wants to apply tea type obsession to it and using unglazed clays... would you dedicate specific cups to specific types of beans then?

trouble...

Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:34 am
by OCTO
wave_code wrote: βSat Sep 05, 2020 10:34 am
did those cups come from Hojo?
I stopped drinking coffee completely a few years ago, but if one wants to apply tea type obsession to it and using unglazed clays... would you dedicate specific cups to specific types of beans then?

trouble...
@wave_code
Iβm a casual coffee drinker that appreciates a decent cup of coffee. Thank heavens Iβm not as inquisitive in my coffee as compared to my tea. So itβs only one cup for all my coffee indulgence. The other is for my wife.
Yes, the cups came from Hojo.
Cheers!!
Re: Kobiwako.... Kofeewhacko??
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:56 am
by klepto
Bok wrote: βSat Sep 05, 2020 5:42 am
What we can see here is: never ask OCTO a question, all you get is awareness of more things you did not know you wanted.
Gah, OCTO gives me that every time he posts. Can we vote him off the island so I don't feel ashamed when I look at my teaware
Shame or FOMO, BOTH!
