Shudei vs Zhuni - or the case of the elusive two Zhuni

[Victoria]

Haha wrinkles is probably a yixing term. I am curious about shrinkage of the kyusu before fired and after fired. High shrinkage ratio clay in Yixing Zisha would make a pattern like distress leather after fired.

I’ve never noticed zhuni-like wrinkles on their shudei or any shudei. To me, shudei reminds me of 60s and early 70s F1 hongni in the most essential sense. Shudei may have kaolin, quartz, etc. added to it of course but the clay is nevertheless more like hongni than zhuni.

Baisao
Great, now I have some idea on what to expect.
Victoria
Jozan lll pots can be purchased under $1000 usd?

20-30% shrinkage rate for finely sieved Tokoname clay. Like Baisao said I’ve also not seen wrinkles on Tokoname-ware. As for pricing it varies quite a bit, hand signed over a thousand typically, stamped can vary below that but not necessarily. This book discusses the process ‘ Modern Japanese Ceramics: Pathways of Innovation & Tradition’, By Anneliese Crueger, Wulf Crueger, Saeko Ito

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[DailyTX]

I’ve never noticed zhuni-like wrinkles on their shudei or any shudei. To me, shudei reminds me of 60s and early 70s F1 hongni in the most essential sense. Shudei may have kaolin, quartz, etc. added to it of course but the clay is nevertheless more like hongni than zhuni.

Baisao
Great, now I have some idea on what to expect.
Victoria
Jozan lll pots can be purchased under $1000 usd?

20-30% shrinkage rate for finely sieved Tokoname clay. Like Baisao said I’ve also not seen wrinkles on Tokoname-ware. As for pricing it varies quite a bit, hand signed over a thousand typically, stamped can vary below that but not necessarily. This book discusses the process ‘ Modern Japanese Ceramics: Pathways of Innovation & Tradition’, By Anneliese Crueger, Wulf Crueger, Saeko Ito

Thanks, it seems like a good book to read to get more knowledge about japanese tea ware