Yamada family seal chops and signatures

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Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:13 pm

@Victoria this helps a lot. Thank you. Weird as this is the second item I received in the past week that cracked during the transport. The other being some yixing cups I received with a teapot from Yinchen.
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Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:49 pm

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Victoria this helps a lot. Thank you. Weird as this is the second item I received in the past week that cracked during the transport. The other being some yixing cups I received with a teapot from Yinchen.
^Sorry to hear that Lukav :( hope she's able to make it right somehow.
Do you mind telling me how you went about contacting her? There's something (small) I've been having my eyes on sou's, but I don't know what the best way to reach her is.
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:45 am

@AozoraE you can contact Asako Isobe via Facebook messenger and take a look at her boutique web site isobe.shop-pro.jp, she has a much larger store as well in Tokoname. Her web site is limited, so let her know what you are looking for and that TeaForum sent you :) 🍃

Artistic Nippon also sells Yamada family kyusu.
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:29 pm

Victoria wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:45 am
AozoraE you can contact Asako Isobe via Facebook messenger and take a look at her boutique web site isobe.shop-pro.jp, she has a much larger store as well in Tokoname. Her web site is limited, so let her know what you are looking for and that TeaForum sent you :) 🍃

Artistic Nippon also sells Yamada family kyusu.
^Thanks Victoria!
I'm not looking for kyusu this time(I have 2 I've acquired over the past few years, so thats good enough for me :D ) I'm looking for a yuzamashi actually!
Really like the shape of some of the shudei yuzamashi he makes. Plus I'm interested in seeing what his shudei is like :P
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:00 pm

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Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:49 pm
^Sorry to hear that Lukav :( hope she's able to make it right somehow.
Do you mind telling me how you went about contacting her? There's something (small) I've been having my eyes on sou's, but I don't know what the best way to reach her is.
I contacted her via email written on her website (I think) or web form. She is really kind and would/will buy again from her. Atm the stock of shudei and blue pots is a bit limited but I did ask only for pots that are 150ml or lower. I ended up getting a 150 ml shudei kyusu which is gorgeous in person. I wanted a blue glazed kyusu too but the only available ones although stellar were out of my price range so I picked the backhandle pot. At 100ml it is just the perfect size and no brained for me. It hurts to se such a pot being broken so I will try to repair it with epoxy glue. The cuts are quite clean so if all goes right it will be left with two tiny cracks and a story from the start :D. Still haven’t decided with what tea to use it. As I drink a lot of young sheng these days it would make a perfect pot for it but then again I ended up using a lot of pots for sheng so maybe I need to become more picky.

For the next year I will try to get the blue kyusu just for greens and mayake one so I am comfotring myself with the thought that there will be more Sou on my shelf haha.
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Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:34 am

Hello everyone,
I also have a tokoname teapot, I'm thinking it's from the yamada family.
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Vintagetea wrote:
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Hello everyone,
I also have a tokoname teapot, I'm thinking it's from the yamada family.
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Yes, looks like Jozan II.
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Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:19 pm

Victoria wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:59 pm
Vintagetea wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:34 am
Hello everyone,
I also have a tokoname teapot, I'm thinking it's from the yamada family.
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Yes, looks like Jozan II.
Thank you.,!
I searched for signature not found information, it was just personal prediction.
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here is the foreward (with minor edits) from Yamada Jōzan III: "Living National Treasure", His Spirit and Ceramics (2012), an art/exhibition book by Idemitsu Museum of Arts:
Foreword

Yamada Jozan III (1924-2005) was a ceramic artist born in Tokoname city, Aichi prefecture in Taisho 13 (1924). He was born into the family of generations of the master-hand of kyusu teapot craftsmen starting with his grandfather Yamada Jozan I. He was taught and trained by his grandfather Jozan I and his father Jozan II, and he was fervently engaged in teapot making from his teens. Ever since that time, it is said that he created over one hundred different styles and shapes of teapots in eighty-one years of his life, and thus he established a rich and colorful world of teapots. Because of the many years of devotion in his field, he was designated an "Intangible Cultural Asset" (or more popularly called Living National Treasure) in Heisei 10 (1998) for his career in Tokoname ware, especially for the making of teapots. His designation was not only because of his ceramic skills but was recognition given to the type of ceramics, teapots of Tokoname ware. This is an unusual designation and recognition, but the fact is it proves the high value put on the teapots which Jozan III made.

Over the past twenty years, the Idemitsu Museum of Arts has collected Jozan's ceramics, ranging from various tea paraphernalia including tea bowls, sake drinking and eating utensils, to Tokoname ware natural glaze jars fired in noborigama (climbing) kilns. One hundred eighty individual and sets of pieces selected from the Idemitsu collection for this exhibition present a good overall view of the various and multifaceted appeal of Jozan III not only of his teapots as well as other categories of ceramics. At the same time, they will show how Jozan III extended his world of creation beyond teapots, utilizing as background the rich history of ceramics of Japan.

The year 2011 marks the seventh anniversary of the artist's death, and the exhibition is designed to display the entire collection for the first time. Although fully identified with teapot making, which claimed most of his time, ceramic production was the essence of Jozan III's existence and totally consumed his energy. We hope that you will enjoy and feel the simple, honest and warm power which we could embody in our everyday lives from the art of Jozan III.

Lastly, we would like to express our deepest gratitude to the family of Yamada Jozan IV for the understanding and support in realizing this exhibition.

Idemitsu Museum of Arts
just sharing as biographical info for the jozan nerds out there. here's another nice page: http://www.tokoname.or.jp/teapot/maker_ ... n_kiln.htm

btw, i would like to eventually scan, OCR, and translate this book. pm me if anyone is interested in assisting with translation. otherwise, it's just going to be google translate and common sense. lol
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Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:42 am

Yamada Jozan II.
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Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:31 am

Vintagetea wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:42 am
Yamada Jozan II.
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Chop seems slightly different from the one on this page

https://japanese-ceramics.com/yamada-jo ... %E4%BB%A3/
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Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:49 am

LeoFox wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:31 am
Vintagetea wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:42 am
Yamada Jozan II.
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Chop seems slightly different from the one on this page

https://japanese-ceramics.com/yamada-jo ... %E4%BB%A3/
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I think that’s only the distortion of the imagery. Also haven’t heard of fake Jozan II yet.
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Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:08 am

Bok wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:49 am
LeoFox wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:31 am
Vintagetea wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:42 am
Yamada Jozan II.
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Chop seems slightly different from the one on this page

https://japanese-ceramics.com/yamada-jo ... %E4%BB%A3/
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I think that’s only the distortion of the imagery. Also haven’t heard of fake Jozan II yet.
I feel the same sign, just because I took the picture at a slant so the picture was distorted.
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Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:54 am

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Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:03 pm
There is an update to this story:
After some solid detective work on the part of the person who bought the pot from me, it turns out that it is NOT a Yamada family teapot.

It is made by another lesser known potter called Miura Jozan (三浦常山).

The interesting part is that this potter is from Sado Island. Apparently one of the first to make use of Mumyoi clay, made well known by Hojo tea!

On a side note, it turns out that MarshalN’s pot, which peaked my interest in the first place, is also not Yamada, but again the same Miura Jozan!
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Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:22 pm

There are 3 generations of potters who used the name Jozan Miura. Their pots are often sold as Jozan Yamada III pots to fetch more money.

I can confirm that the seal above is not Jozan Yamada. It appears to be Jozan Miura but it’s a new seal to me and who knows which generation. To my knowledge there isn’t much info on this family. I would certainly appreciate it if people invested some attention to them as 1) it is needed and 2) their mumyoi is quite nice for Japanese teas.
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