Yamada family seal chops and signatures

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Bok
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Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:27 pm

Victoria wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:13 pm
This site references that seal as used by Jozan III, but the pot looks more like II to me; https://chano-yu.com/famous-japanese-potters-and-marks/
Nice link! Thanks

Seal is a bit different than mine though.
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Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:36 pm

Considering the tomobaku is missing, the style, and the unfamiliar (to me) seal, I am inclined to believe it is Jozan I or II. It seems most people kept the tomobaku for Yamada III’s works and his seals are well known. If pressed I would say it’s Yamada II for circumstantial reasons in addition to reasons mentioned above.

I look forward to hearing other thoughts on the matter.
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Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:18 am

Thanks! I was suspecting something like I or II as well. I don’t think Jozan III still made this kind of Chinese style pots, they must have matured to something else at that point.

I wonder if the family itself would be receptive to an inquiry...

In any case that pot was a steal for A fraction of what a Jozan III-IV or Yamada Sou would cost!
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:03 pm

There is an update to this story:
After some solid detective work on the part of the person who bought the pot from me, it turns out that it is NOT a Yamada family teapot.

It is made by another lesser known potter called Miura Jozan (三浦常山).

The interesting part is that this potter is from Sado Island. Apparently one of the first to make use of Mumyoi clay, made well known by Hojo tea!

On a side note, it turns out that MarshalN’s pot, which peaked my interest in the first place, is also not Yamada, but again the same Miura Jozan!
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:41 pm

Interesting! I also recently ran into a pot from Sado island...
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:56 pm

@steanze nice pot! Simple lines, looks like it has a very fast pour.
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:48 pm

Thanks for the deets, @Bok! I’ll add those seals to my collection and mark them as Jozan Miura. Looks like there were three generations of Jozan Miura potters.
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Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:45 am

Bok wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:56 pm
steanze nice pot! Simple lines, looks like it has a very fast pour.
it does!
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