The (Western) Yixing market

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Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:43 am

I live in Seattle area, so I may end up going to visit the shop in vancouver at some point, if I feel the urge to make a day trip.

@Bok , Reputable for F1, though if you know of any places selling non-F1 that has good quality clay I'm all ears, my main requirement is that the clay be good. I looked on HY Chen's website, and he has it organzied by label color? What does this mean? It looks like he's got some zini pots...and hey! They're in my price range!! YAY! I'll prob end up buying one of those.
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:11 am

@swordofmytriumph labels indicate the age. Green sticker, then white, then hologram. 60-70s before any stickers. Personally, I wouldn’t go later than green sticker.
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:16 am

swordofmytriumph wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:43 am
I live in Seattle area, so I may end up going to visit the shop in vancouver at some point, if I feel the urge to make a day trip.

Bok , Reputable for F1, though if you know of any places selling non-F1 that has good quality clay I'm all ears, my main requirement is that the clay be good. I looked on HY Chen's website, and he has it organzied by label color? What does this mean? It looks like he's got some zini pots...and hey! They're in my price range!! YAY! I'll prob end up buying one of those.
Question: How do you identify F1 pots?
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:21 am

@OCTO , I also would like to know this.

@Bok , Why no later than green sticker? Did some googling, green sticker is '80s? So no later than the 80's? I would assume that, say, white stickers, while not as good as green, are still better than other things made currently, yes? Or another way, an 80's pot is better than a 90's one, which would be better than a brand new pot, or a non-yixing pot?

Edit: also, I was looking at some of the green label stuff, and they have these pots that are Zisha on the inside, and hongni on the outside? So does it brew like a zisha or a hongni? What does this do?

Hmm, Emmet has some good stuff...
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:10 am

@swordofmytriumph what you see as inside Zini outside Hongni is called a Neiziwaihong. As what comes in contact with the tea is the inside it brews more like a Zini.

The other question demands a longer, more confusing answer, no time now, let’s say: it depends.
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If it brews like a Zini, there a reason for putting hongni on the outside, or is it purely decorative?
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swordofmytriumph wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:20 am
If it brews like a Zini, there a reason for putting hongni on the outside, or is it purely decorative?
The red colour you see outside is purely decorative. I believe there is already an existing thread on NZWH. So I won't spam this thread with photos and risk myself getting banned..... :roll: :roll: :roll:

Cheers!
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Thanks! I'll find the other thread...
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swordofmytriumph wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:05 am
Thanks! I'll find the other thread...
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=598
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Bok wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:18 pm
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Sigh...now look what youve gone and done...
Email sent. Id imagine they want over $1000 though. Lets see if they respond.
That is Qing Dynasty! $4000 Easy.
I would not bother with the ones they do not display the price. It means if you do not know how much this is worth, don't bother! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
ya, forget it. I have no problem spending good money on toys, but i like my assets of that price range to be liquidatable. Looks like ive reached the level im willing to spend on pots. No need for me to get any more
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Also, at that price level I would not buy anything I haven’t touched and examined first hand.
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:29 am

Is that zishaartgallery site considered legit?
I remember browsing it a few months ago and seeing a couple pots I wasnt sure about so I sorta disregarded it.
Good to hear then :)
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:22 am

In case you don’t have links;
Emmett is here on TeaForum.
Hau Ying Chen has a web site, http://2088taiwan.com and here is a description with a few more links.
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:55 am

gatmcm wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:29 am
Is that zishaartgallery site considered legit?
I remember browsing it a few months ago and seeing a couple pots I wasnt sure about so I sorta disregarded it.
Good to hear then :)
Yes. I asked a few collectors in SEA before buying anything.

What pots were you unsure about?
Note that not all of their pots are f1. They also sell a number of inexpensive pots from f2.
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Chadrinkincat wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:55 am
gatmcm wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:29 am
Is that zishaartgallery site considered legit?
I remember browsing it a few months ago and seeing a couple pots I wasnt sure about so I sorta disregarded it.
Good to hear then :)
Yes. I asked a few collectors in SEA before buying anything.

What pots were you unsure about?
Note that not all of their pots are f1. They also sell a number of inexpensive pots from f2.
Don’t you think that 170 SGD for an F2 is actually relatively pricey?
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