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Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:55 pm
by Bok
Noonie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:23 pm
My new Chaozhou pot from YS. 100ml.
Nice.
Are you planning to try it with some Dancong as well? So far I think that is where these pots shine the most! I think this might be part of the reason why CZ pots are not more popular: The biggest difference they make is with Dancong, for most other teas, other clays do a better job.
Would also do a side by side with Yixing Hongni to further see how it influences the various teas.
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:15 pm
by Noonie
Bok wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:55 pm
Noonie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:23 pm
My new Chaozhou pot from YS. 100ml.
Nice.
Are you planning to try it with some Dancong as well? So far I think that is where these pots shine the most! I think this might be part of the reason why CZ pots are not more popular: The biggest difference they make is with Dancong, for most other teas, other clays do a better job.
Would also do a side by side with Yixing Hongni to further see how it influences the various teas.
Once I get some good Dan Cong, for sure. So far I’ve had only ‘garden’ quality and it’s been...okay. I’m not too picky with pairing pot to the intended tea though. I just like how the pot functions. If the side by side with Gaiwan shows one as being much better, than I’ll let that guide me. I have a cheap yixing...but want one good one in time.
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:20 am
by Bok
Reminds me of something I just recently learned from a new teapot collector friend: the style of pot attached is apparently something that was given to couples in Chaozhou for their wedding. A calligraphy inscription around the body, and the top of the lid adorned with animals or vegetables. So far I’ve seen fish, frogs, a sort of eggplant and unidentifiable vegetables.
My new friend has a whole collection of these, the duck kind was new to him though
Best part of the story is that in his opinion, what I thought was 80-90s, is actually likely a late Qing dynasty! Good thing I repaired the few chips with Kintsugi!
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:03 am
by Noonie
Bok wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:20 am
Reminds me of something I just recently learned from a new teapot collector friend: the style of pot attached is apparently something that was given to couples in Chaozhou for their wedding. A calligraphy inscription around the body, and the top of the lid adorned with animals or vegetables. So far I’ve seen fish, frogs, a sort of eggplant and unidentifiable vegetables.
My new friend has a whole collection of these, the duck kind was new to him though
Best part of the story is that in his opinion, what I thought was 80-90s, is actually likely a late Qing dynasty! Good thing I repaired the few chips with Kintsugi!
@Bok that’s a lovely pot. Wish someone would’ve given us those pots for my wedding as opposed to bread makers and the like
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:36 pm
by Teachronicles
I've been told this might be ROC or earlier. Pretty small, I'd guess <100ml. Funny, it's been sitting on my shelf for months, an Instagram post today inspired me to take it out and ask around to see what people thought. I got it on eBay for 40$. I just thought it looked old so thought, why not, for 40 bucks. Anyways, enjoy.
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:38 pm
by Bok
@Teachronicles got a view of the whole pot?
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:40 pm
by Teachronicles
@Bok ya, sorry, I screwed this up. Here we go.
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:09 pm
by Teachronicles
Here's some additional pictures
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:11 pm
by Bok
Nice pot! I find CZ very difficult to date, clay looks the same if old or less old, so all the clues are in the workmanship and style. See my example of what turned out to be possible Qing although I thought it’s 80s...
How does it perform? Looks more on the rough side in terms of craftsmanship.
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:13 pm
by Bok
Also funny how the often seem to chip at the exact same spot on the spout, I’ve seen a few all chipped there. Looks not new in any case, as to how old, I wouldn’t dare to guess.
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:58 am
by Teachronicles
@Bok I'm preparing it for use now, I'll let you know.
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:40 am
by Bok
Teachronicles wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:58 am
Bok I'm preparing it for use now, I'll let you know.
Cheers!
I had very good results with medium to high roasted Dancong.
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:22 pm
by Chadrinkincat
It must be CZ season because I just got a new one too. Unfortunately this one is pretty badly damaged. I’m guessing this ones Qing era but I too find it hard to estimate age of CZ pots so it could be somewhat newer.
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:58 pm
by Victoria
@Chadrinkincat love the scale shift create by the decoration. A special piece.
Re: Chaozhou/Shantou
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:40 am
by Bok
Antique and vintage tea market in Taipei today the result was: a tiny Chaozhou pot from the 80s. The seller had an even tinier one but that was just to impractical... funnily enough the seal chop reads 5-cups although it’s 52ml!
EDIT, just to add this piece of thought from elsewhere:
Seal chop reads 5-cups, which shows us how different tea has been consumed in the past. In fact people from CZ still use very, very tiny tea ware! Also has to do with their preferred brewing method, strong and high leaf ratio, consumed in small sips. Basically, the Chinese espresso!