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Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 12:19 pm
by Pieter W.
Sorry something went wrong with the number of photo's :roll:

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 12:23 pm
by steanze
Pieter W. wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:18 pm
Hello to all of you, every post id most helpfull to me. Thanks a lot. Now I post some photo's. Please give me your opinion. Best regards, Pieter.
This looks like a Japanese teapot, probably banko yaki.

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 1:46 pm
by Victoria
Yes, looks like Banko. The lid looks borrowed.

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:43 pm
by Bok
@Pieter W. I do not really get what you are doing here, are you just using this (and us) to evaluate auctions you see, or are those your own pots?

If I do recall correctly, we have a policy of only posting images where you own the rights.

Other than that you have clearly no clue at all what a CZ pot looks like... even a basic google search could lead you to a better understanding what it normally looks like.

@admin, @Victoria maybe we need to implement a rule as on the Early teapot group on Fb, which asks for a handwritten signature on one of the images to avoid this from happening?

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:33 am
by Pieter W.
Good morning, thanks for your answers. I only ask for advice. I like to learn and to prepare me for my visit Chaozhou in October. The only source for me is going to an auction. Excuse me for using a different angle. Best regards, Pieter

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 4:03 am
by Bok
@Pieter W. the better way would be to google chaozhou pots first, that will give you at least a first idea. As you can see the auctions have been more misleading than educational.

If you type in the Chinese characters for those teapots you’ll find a wealth of samples. Even searching tea forums will give you images.

Don’t count on finding antiques I. chaozhou itself that time has passed long ago...

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:39 am
by Pieter W.
Hello Bok, thanks for your advice. I speak and write only Dutch and English. Can you provide me the names in Chinese characters? Best regards, Pieter.

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 10:24 am
by Bok
Pieter W. wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 6:39 am
Hello Bok, thanks for your advice. I speak and write only Dutch and English. Can you provide me the names in Chinese characters? Best regards, Pieter.
You’re a lazy one aren’t you? ;)
潮州茶壺

Trust me google is (often) your friend...

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 10:47 am
by Chadrinkincat
Bok wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 10:24 am
Pieter W. wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 6:39 am
Hello Bok, thanks for your advice. I speak and write only Dutch and English. Can you provide me the names in Chinese characters? Best regards, Pieter.
You’re a lazy one aren’t you? ;)
潮州茶壺

Trust me google is (often) your friend...
CLASSIC! 😂

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 11:56 am
by Victoria
Hey guys, no need to be condescending to a new member just looking for advise. Also, in my experience google gets some translations wrong so why not directly ask Chinese speakers. @Pieter W. it takes time to learn about a particular type of pottery. My recommendation is read and look at as much as you can before your trip to the region. You might ask Imen at TeaHabitat if she knows of any good sources of information for Chaozhou. Let her know you are going there, she goes a few times per year and may also have recommendations for you.

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 11:58 am
by Pieter W.
:? I like to be careful. I have been warned for the English - Chinese translation by Google. But thanks a lot!!

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:52 pm
by Victoria
Pieter W. wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 11:58 am
:? I like to be careful. I have been warned for the English - Chinese translation by Google. But thanks a lot!!
Might as well try some high quality DanCong from TeaHabitat before your trip, so you have a good reference. Sent you a pm regarding attaching images to avoid duplicates.

@Bok re image attribution, we do have a rule under Rules & Etiquette/ Reposting; ‘Plagiarism is prohibited. Please properly attribute what you repost to the original author(s).’ That includes image reposting.

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 9:57 pm
by Bok
@Victoria it’s not about being condescending or not, it’s about basic politeness. I just get irritated if I see a pattern of asking questions without even doing due and very basic diligence and research in trying to get some information myself before I bother others. Randomly posting images from auctions in hope of appraisal is not that.

Also nothing to be careful about googling words, worst that can happen is a lot of the wrong kind of images, which is what happens already anyways one might say...

It’s all about attitude. Make an effort and there will be a return at some point.

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 5:31 pm
by Victoria
I can sympathize Bok, communicating in an international open forum with members who have a wide spectrum of knowledge, as well as varied levels of experience, and objectives can be challenging. Sometimes though, I find that simple or even unorthodox questions result in interesting exchanges, unpeeling layers of information that is useful to both experienced and new users. But yeah, I can see your not wanting to be an advisor for auction prices on this Chaozhou thread.

Re: Chaozhou/Shantou

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:23 pm
by Noonie
My new Chaozhou pot from YS. 100ml. Brewing some Raw Pu’erh from Pu’erh Brooklyn. Fast pour, tight lid, lovely to handle. I’m going to do a side by side with a Gaiwan in the future. The colour is much brighter than the photo reveals.

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