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Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:52 am

Bok wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:21 am
Others have been a bad influence - you know who you are!
Oh my oh my.... eye are rolling 👁 👁 🙄🙄.... many heads will roll.. 🤪🤪...
Bok wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:21 am
It is an addictive journey, especially once you come across really good, tea changing clays...
Now this is a very familiar statement....

Cheers!!!
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swordofmytriumph wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:46 am
Lol, I seem to already be getting there. I was salivating over some of Hojo's pots yesterday.
Lol!! Yes. Their stock just arrived. Pretty decent batch. Check out their Shigaraki , Akitsu and Nosaka clay selections.

*poison lurks*..... 😂😂😂
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Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:58 am

@OCTO , I take it you're the aforementioned "influence"? ;)

Funny you should mention the Akitsu and Nosaka, cause I plan to get one of each! Lol, I've already emailed hojo about it, just waiting to hear back. I've never bought from him before, but I hear great things. I was browsing through old threads about pots when someone mentioned japanese pots as opposed to yixing being a better price point, esp when you consider I'm not experienced enough to really know how to identify a good yixing pot, and how japanese stuff can tend to be more reliable. Do you have any of the Akitsu or Nosaka pots yourself?
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Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:11 am

@swordofmytriumph

Yes. I have both.. let’s not derail Bok’s thread. I’ve PM you.

Cheers!
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Special dedication to @Victoria, a cool Taipei night with a modern Chaozhou teapot, brewing a warming charcoal roasted Dancong...
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I had posted this before, here again for the sake of collecting it in one place.

Will take a pic of my CZ kettle later.

This one is a modern pot without any additional glazing in authentic, CZ clay.
Reminds me of a potato but in a good way :lol:
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Hello, can someone tell me if there books concerning teapots made in Chaozhou/Shantou?
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Hello, can someone tell me if there books concerning teapots made in Chaozhou/Shantou?
Not really. None in English for sure, some bits in Chinese maybe, I only ever saw a few pages out of an unknown book.
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Ok, thanks for the answer. Can someone help me with some pictures of CZ teapots?
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some pictures of CZ teapots?
Would help if you define what you are looking for and why...

New, vintage, antique?
Most of them just look like Yixing in design, only upon closer inspection one can spot the differences - if you know where to look.

Old ones have a coating in red clay outside, so they look shiny, although CZ clay is mat and orange. Which you can see in my pots posted above.
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Pieter W. wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:48 am
Ok, thanks for the answer. Can someone help me with some pictures of CZ teapots?
https://www.google.com/search?q=chaozho ... 20&bih=454

You can see the difference in/out color that Bok mentioned
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Chadrinkincat wrote:
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Pieter W. wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:48 am
Ok, thanks for the answer. Can someone help me with some pictures of CZ teapots?
https://www.google.com/search?q=chaozho ... 20&bih=454

You can see the difference in/out color that Bok mentioned
Thanks for all your help. I'm looking for the skill to determine the difference of the teapots made in Yixing / Chauzhou. Are the shapes different? is the decoration different, is there decoration, and so on.

Best regards, Pieter
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Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:35 pm

Well, that is relatively easy for older CZ pots:

- Red clay coating outside
- wheel throwing traces
- often funny spouthole entrance inside, often too small, so these pots have a slow pour
- same shapes as Yixing in general, yet often poorly crafted. You kind of get a feel for them once you’ve seen a few.
- different seal chops and markings.
- inside colour of clay is more orange than red.

For modern ones it is more difficult, not many pure CZ clays anymore, mostly blend so the colour is off.

Only the wheel throwing traces on the inside can identify them as CZ, designs etc are mostly identical to modern Yixing.
I noticed that on some the spout design is more sophisticated than on your average Yixing.

For antique and high quality CZ pots all bets are off, those can be marvellously executed, anyways those are usually higher priced than what the average Western tea geek is prepared to pay :)
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Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:51 am

Goodmorning Bok, Thanks a lot for your explanation. This is very useful. Is there a museum in Chaozhou or Shantou? One of these days I make a picture of what could be a CZ pot. Thanks again, best regards, Pieter
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