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Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:50 pm
by .m.
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:05 pm
by tingjunkie
Very different clay used on those, compared to mine. Looks like nice clay, nonetheless.
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:05 pm
by steanze
My 2 cents...
First one is real, F1 1970s.
Second one looks like green label but I have some doubts about the base.
Third one, fake. Clay is wrong, workmanship all over the place (lid profile is off), the qing yin pot was not made with that seal...
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:07 am
by tingjunkie
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:27 am
by Teachronicles
I'm gna say faketory on #5
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:46 pm
by tealifehk
Again, I've never seen this exact four gentlemen pot, but it looks good and well crafted. Gonna say this one is real too. The clay on #2 looks exactly like my green label qsn.
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:47 pm
by Chadrinkincat
Both #4 and #5 look fake.
#4 clay doesn't look right. Every similar looking pot design I've seen online is non f1 90-00.
#5 air hole is goofy, inside and bottom odd too.
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:20 pm
by tingjunkie
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:37 pm
by Chadrinkincat
60's pot with 73 stamped in lid sounds highly unlikely. Everything I've read indicates that numbers didn't appear until green label and that they aren't related to cup size.
This pot looks like 80's.
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:41 pm
by tingjunkie
Chadrinkincat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:37 pm
60's pot with 73 stamped in lid sounds highly unlikely. Everything I've read indicates that numbers didn't appear until green label and that they aren't related to cup size.
This pot looks like 80's.
Sorry, I corrected my above post, it was a 79. But that doesn't change your point. Do you know if the numbers were a particular worker, or a group of workers? Or something different entirely?
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:46 pm
by tingjunkie
Chadrinkincat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:47 pm
#5 air hole is goofy, inside and bottom odd too.
My best guess is that this was a private workshop pot from around '93 for export to Taiwan. Does that sound right to you? Did Factory 2-5 ever use the 6 character Mengchen seal?
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:51 pm
by tingjunkie
I'm really enjoying how some pots are getting varied opinions on their authenticity. I hope Dr. Lu or another expert might swoop in and give us some definitive answers.
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:57 pm
by steanze
tingjunkie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:51 pm
I'm really enjoying how some pots are getting varied opinions on their authenticity. I hope Dr. Lu or another expert might swoop in and give us some definitive answers.
You can post them on Dr.Lv's facebook group
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:06 pm
by Bok
steanze wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:57 pm
tingjunkie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:51 pm
I'm really enjoying how some pots are getting varied opinions on their authenticity. I hope Dr. Lu or another expert might swoop in and give us some definitive answers.
You can post them on Dr.Lv's facebook group
Yeah I don’t think he follows this forum too closely, fB is quicker and there are other experts there too
Re: Factory or Faketory?
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:33 pm
by tealifehk
Pot #6 looks to be Green Label. I agree with chadrinkincat, the numbers first appeared in the Green Label period. If I remember correctly, it refers to a group of workers vs an individual. The clay also looks like Green Label. Coating is a bit rough though