Factory or Faketory?

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tealifehk
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:41 pm

Pot #6 looks to be Green Label. I agree with chadrinkincat, the numbers first appeared in the Green Label period. If I remember correctly, it refers to a group of workers vs an individual. The clay also looks like Green Label. Coating is a bit rough though, but normal.

#5 looks funky to me too. A bit too sloppy
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:23 am

Pots 7 & 8: 40ml each.

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Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:55 pm

Pot #9: 95-100ml Rou Bing. Long lid skirt with engraving on it. No idea what it says. If anyone wants to translate, I can take better photos. Real or not, the clay performs quite well.

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Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:36 am

I ran the first two pots past Dr. Lu's facebook group. Pot #1 is authentic 70's F1. Pot #2 is likely a 2000's repro ordered for the Taiwanese market.
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Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:08 pm

tingjunkie wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:36 am
I ran the first two pots past Dr. Lu's facebook group. Pot #1 is authentic 70's F1. Pot #2 is likely a 2000's repro ordered for the Taiwanese market.
Nice. Yes, the bottom of pot #2 looks wrong. The clay is still good though.
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Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:01 pm

steanze wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:08 pm
tingjunkie wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:36 am
I ran the first two pots past Dr. Lu's facebook group. Pot #1 is authentic 70's F1. Pot #2 is likely a 2000's repro ordered for the Taiwanese market.
Nice. Yes, the bottom of pot #2 looks wrong. The clay is still good though.
What looks wrong to you about the bottom of the pot? Trying to educate myself a bit :)
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Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:23 pm

burritofingers wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:01 pm

What looks wrong to you about the bottom of the pot? Trying to educate myself a bit :)
For example, there's a mark around the rim that looks weird
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Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:54 pm

steanze wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:23 pm
burritofingers wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:01 pm

What looks wrong to you about the bottom of the pot? Trying to educate myself a bit :)
For example, there's a mark around the rim that looks weird
Ah, gotcha. I just figured that was a tea stain. Thanks, Steanze!
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Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:29 pm

burritofingers wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:54 pm
Ah, gotcha. I just figured that was a tea stain. Thanks, Steanze!
It does not look like a tea stain to me, it seems like a mark left during the making, which indicates non-F1 like workmanship :)
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steanze wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:29 pm
burritofingers wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:54 pm
Ah, gotcha. I just figured that was a tea stain. Thanks, Steanze!
It does not look like a tea stain to me, it seems like a mark left during the making, which indicates non-F1 like workmanship :)
Good eye, I didn't even look at that! I felt the characters inside the lid looked too carefully incised to be F1, but it might just be the extreme closeup.
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Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:24 pm

Hi :)

could someone maybe have a look at this pot and tell me if you think if it's a genuine green label pot?

http://2088taiwan.com//index.php?route= ... uct_id=113

I've seen the vendor mentioned in another threat here and assume he's reliable. On the other hand i am not too experienced with vintage pots and am a little skeptic since most other pots that i have seen so far had a stamp in the lid and a single hole filter.
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Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:46 pm

Soma wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:24 pm
Hi :)

could someone maybe have a look at this pot and tell me if you think if it's a genuine green label pot?

http://2088taiwan.com//index.php?route= ... uct_id=113

I've seen the vendor mentioned in another threat here and assume he's reliable. On the other hand i am not too experienced with vintage pots and am a little skeptic since most other pots that i have seen so far had a stamp in the lid and a single hole filter.
Hi Soma, Welcome to the forum. I am not an expert, just an educated collector/user of Yixing. That looks genuine to me, plus I can vouch for the seller. HYChen sources some, or more than a few, of his pots from an expert, Kyarazen. I have a very similar ‘roubing’ (meat cake) as the one you linked, mine is from late 70s early 80s (green label) that I got from Kyarazen. You can buy from him with confidence.
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Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:56 am

That's great to hear. Thanks a lot Victoria!
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Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:59 pm

Pots 7 and 8....you guys are going to think that i am crazy..but those look like the 40 ml Hong Ni and Muo Lvni Shui Ping teapots that were for sale at the Mandarin's Tea Room many years ago. I bought one of the Hong Ni Shui Pings from them. I could try and find the old MTR blog as I believe there were pictures of the teapots there.

As far as factory or faketory....well all I can say is that if they are the pots I believe them to be, they are of excellent craftsmanship. If I am wrong...promise to laugh with me not at me ;)
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Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:03 pm

Here is the link to the old Mandarin's Tea blog:
http://themandarinstea.blogspot.com/200 ... uliet.html

Scroll down to see individual photos of the Muo Lvni Shui Ping teapot as well as a 'group shot' of similar teapots.

edited for crummy spelling
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