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Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:55 pm
by Bok
So an unexpected find yesterday: another Biandeng! Same size but a whole different workmanship, more sloppy, less balanced and in hongni.

Clay feels very dense and mid to high fired. Looks a bit dusty but that seems to be from the storage.

The vendor said he bought them in Yixing at least 30 years ago but is not sure how much longer they have been there before he bought them.

Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:57 pm
by Bok
The handle is a tiny bit better balanced than the Nwlh, more comfortable to hold. Other than that volume and thickness seem to be almost identical.

And half of what I paid for the first!

Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:59 pm
by steanze
what does the base look like?

Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:00 pm
by Bok
Clay is definitely on the red side.

Took me ages to choose as he had a whole lot of them, all slightly different.

... and all the other basic 5 Yixing shapes. All seemingly from the same period and clay, maybe even the same firing.

Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:02 pm
by Bok
steanze wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:59 pm
what does the base look like?
Ha! Knew I forgot something important!

Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:22 pm
by steanze
mm this looks a bit weird to me. It's trying to be a 1980s green label but I am not quite convinced...

Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:26 am
by Bok
Gonna post it on the fb group as well, maybe someone knows more of what it is, maybe outside factory or F2-5.

Whatever it is, the clay and feel is nice, brewing is good as far as my first tests go.

Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:35 am
by Bok
So, FB group came back quickly, not F1 probably after 90.

Still a good buy at that price, clay and brewing behaviour is good.

Good extension as well to do some side by side comparisons with the other pot.

Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:35 am
by ShuShu
It’s a jungle out there

Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:44 am
by steanze
Bok wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:35 am
So, FB group came back quickly, not F1 probably after 90.

Still a good buy at that price, clay and brewing behaviour is good.

Good extension as well to do some side by side comparisons with the other pot.
That's what I thought. Several details are off.

Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:00 am
by Bok
Been looking a lot at other Biandengs, from different periods and with confirmed authenticity. Seems to me that this shape must have been more tricky to do and fire, even the older examples are often a bit wonky and off-shape, compared to the other basic shapes like standard Shuiping, Taijian, Bale etc.

The lids are rarely perfect.

Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:39 am
by Bok
Found an ancestor of my other biandengs, from the 60ies :mrgreen:
Took a snap of the three, F1 60s, F1 80s and prob.80/90ies non F1, *which is still for sale ;)

The clay of the 60s is beautiful and I now understand how some things have to be touched and felt to get the difference! Dense, silky, yet sandy.

80 NWLH has the best craftsmanship though. 60s seem to be more sloppy, especially the lids.

Sorry for the quality, the light is terrible today...

Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:41 am
by Bok
one more shot

Re: Biandeng, opinions

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:44 am
by OCTO
Bok wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:41 am
one more shot
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