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The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:24 pm
by Kale
So this pot was sold pretty cheaply ( I have published it here not too long ago) since it has a chipped spout, but now that I have it something about it seems fishy to me and I'm considering returning it. What do you think? does this look legit? the broken part reveals the clay which seems weird to me (I maybe paranoid, of course).


Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:46 pm
by Chadrinkincat
Kale wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:24 pm
So this pot was sold pretty cheaply ( I have published it here not too long ago) since it has a chipped spout, but now that I have it something about it seems fishy to me and I'm considering returning it. What do you think? does this look legit? the broken part reveals the clay which seems weird to me (I maybe paranoid, of course).

Legit? Looks like a typical 80-90s niezhiwaihong pot. Stop over thinking this pot and see how it brews since that's all that really matters.

Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:32 pm
by Kale
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:46 pm
Legit? Looks like a typical 80-90s niezhiwaihong pot. Stop over thinking this pot and see how it brews since that's all that really matters.
check out these pics of the lid (forgot to add them before). It was obviously painted. Perhaps by a seller trying to make it look better? You don't think there are any concerns here?
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Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:07 pm
by .m.
No concerns at all. It looks like a Neiziwaihong teapot: the body of the teapot is made from a brown/purple clay (zini?), while the outside is coated in a thin layer of red clay (hongni). It may look weird, but these pots are quite in demand nowadays.

Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:15 pm
by steanze
+1 typical neizi

Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:16 pm
by Kale
steanze wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:15 pm
+1 typical neizi
Thank you very much guys.
But what is this thing that looks like paint on the lid? I just never seen something like that on an authentic pot from that period.

Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:04 pm
by Chadrinkincat
Kale wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:16 pm
steanze wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:15 pm
+1 typical neizi
Thank you very much guys.
But what is this thing that looks like paint on the lid? I just never seen something like that on an authentic pot from that period.
Red clay. This is very common style of pot from this period. Almost all the F1 green label pots from 2088taiwan are this style. Yours doesn't look like F1 though.

Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:08 pm
by Kale
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:04 pm
Red clay. This is very common style of pot from this period. Almost all the F1 green label pots from 2088taiwan are this style. Yours doesn't look like F1 though.
What about seems non-F1 in your view?

Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:46 pm
by Chadrinkincat
Kale wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:08 pm
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:04 pm
Red clay. This is very common style of pot from this period. Almost all the F1 green label pots from 2088taiwan are this style. Yours doesn't look like F1 though.
What about seems non-F1 in your view?
The handle looks odd and the red coating is really sloppy on lid. I'm not an expert though so I could be wrong. If this isn't F1 than the price you paid was prob high. Good condition Non F1 pots like this are easily available for $50 or less from places like eBay.

Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:52 pm
by ShuShu
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:46 pm
Kale wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:08 pm
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:04 pm
Red clay. This is very common style of pot from this period. Almost all the F1 green label pots from 2088taiwan are this style. Yours doesn't look like F1 though.
What about seems non-F1 in your view?
The handle looks odd and the red coating is really sloppy on lid. I'm not an expert though so I could be wrong. If this isn't F1 than the price you paid was prob high. Good condition Non F1 pots like this are easily available for $50 or less from places like eBay.
Really? if this is 80s stuff then its not that easy to find on Ebay

Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:53 pm
by Kale
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:46 pm
Kale wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:08 pm
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:04 pm
Red clay. This is very common style of pot from this period. Almost all the F1 green label pots from 2088taiwan are this style. Yours doesn't look like F1 though.
What about seems non-F1 in your view?
The handle looks odd and the red coating is really sloppy on lid. I'm not an expert though so I could be wrong. If this isn't F1 than the price you paid was prob high. Good condition Non F1 pots like this are easily available for $50 or less from places like eBay.
I paid about $20. The chopped spout is a price killer. even of not f1 the clay is still decent right?

Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:19 pm
by Chadrinkincat
$20 including shipping? That's not bad as long as you can deal with wacky pour or can fix it for cheap/free. Clay looks fine. Try it with puerh.

Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:43 pm
by tealifehk
Did F1 ever use four-hole filters on shuipings? All of my F1 shuipings are single hole.

Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:06 am
by Chadrinkincat
tealifehk wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:43 pm
Did F1 ever use four-hole filters on shuipings? All of my F1 shuipings are single hole.
This has 7 hole filter.

Re: The Chopped Spout again

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:21 am
by Chadrinkincat
ShuShu wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:52 pm
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:46 pm
Kale wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:08 pm


What about seems non-F1 in your view?
The handle looks odd and the red coating is really sloppy on lid. I'm not an expert though so I could be wrong. If this isn't F1 than the price you paid was prob high. Good condition Non F1 pots like this are easily available for $50 or less from places like eBay.
Really? if this is 80s stuff then its not that easy to find on Ebay

Non F1 pots from 80-90s are easily found on eBay. Even authentic F1 pop up occasionally.