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ShuShu
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Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:55 pm

Anyone here recognizes or have seen before this seal/signature?






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Elise
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Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:36 am

I have not seen exactly the same seal, but it reminds me of round coin-shaped seals with dragon design that show on pots (as well as on many « fake » or copies) initially made for export to India in the years 1880-1890. Maybe someone else has more info about this.
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Psyck
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Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:53 am

Elise wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:36 am
I have not seen exactly the same seal, but it reminds me of round coin-shaped seals with dragon design that show on pots (as well as on many « fake » or copies) initially made for export to India in the years 1880-1890. Maybe someone else has more info about this.
Chinese pots made specifically for export to India is interesting, as I cannot imagine there having been any worthwhile demand for them in India at any time period.
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Elise
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Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:07 pm

Sorry, I checked what I initially read on a Chinese website and it seems that I didn’t get it quite right. :D
It wasn’t about India but export in a general way. I am not a specialist of Yixing teapots’ history, but I read several times about export production of yixing ware. It was obviously a production responding to a demand and targeted Europe (trough the Dutch East India Company), Japan and South East Asian countries such as Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore (see: Kuei-hsiang Lo,The Stonewares of Yixing: From the Ming Period to the Present Day, 1986). So why not India....? ;)
I do not have more data about that, but this website presented the fact that Chinese national collection expanded during the years 1880-90’s and that a part of yixing production was dedicated to that special matter. The sites makes a link between the seals representing the shape of a coin (apparently used at that time) and these showing a dragon as well as flowers.
But I am sure that other people here can give complementary information about that.
.m.
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Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:26 pm

Back in the day Indies or Indochina referred basically to all SE asia... Perhaps that might be the meaning of "India" here.
In particular a lot of yixing was exported to Thailand.
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Psyck
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Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:40 pm

Thx for the clarifications, makes sense.
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Michael M.
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Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:02 am

I have a teapot with the same mark. I was told it was from 1980/90s. https://www.instagram.com/p/BZYUw8mDhIo ... chemichael
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Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:23 pm

yes, 80s/90s replica
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