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Solving the mystery of Hokuro

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:02 am
by jwsteeb
I recently acquired this little pot from a seller in Japan. I love the "beauty mark" near the rim and have decided to call the teapot Hokuro.

The teapot has no markings, and the inside was quite dirty, making it difficult to see any tooling marks. However, when I rub my finger inside, I can feel a seam where the handle is attached. The pot’s body is also not entirely symmetrical. Additionally, the teapot is not as vitrified as my modern clay teapots—the sound when I lightly tap it is duller.

I received some translation help on Reddit with the box label and seal. The label reads 朱泥袋手大急須: Vermillion bag hand large teapot (though “large” seems a bit odd since the teapot is small and fits perfectly in the box). The seal is possibly 片埜南陽書画清X, which appears to be a collector’s seal used by the artist 片野南陽 (Katano Nanyō).

I found a short biography of Katano Nanyō (1840–1882):

"Born in Gotango, Anpachi County, in 1831. His given name was Ryuzo, and his pen name was Shin. He called his study 'Ranshu Shoya.' At a young age, he became a disciple of the Chinese scholar Aoki Tozan and studied poetry and prose, as well as painting under Yamamoto Baiitsu. Along with his father, Katano Manyemon, he worked on flood control projects while also collecting and appreciating calligraphy and antiques, devoting himself to improving his painting skills. In the early Meiji period, as head of Shigo village, he worked hard to promote the local area. He died in 1882 at the age of 43."

I have since cleaned up the pot and now regularly use it for shou puerh.

Are there any clues in the shape of the teapot that could help date it more precisely?
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Re: Solving the mystery of Hokuro

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:15 am
by pedant
sweet pot. got any pics of it all cleaned up?

Re: Solving the mystery of Hokuro

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:04 am
by Bok
Looks like a Chinese Late Qing/early ROC pot. Made for export in a rougher quality. Does not look like Japanese made Yixing(which exists) nor does it look like Japanese clay. Yixing Zisha it is.

Re: Solving the mystery of Hokuro

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:00 am
by .m.
The characters 朱泥 stand for zhuni. Likely the box did not originally belong to this teapot but to a different one made of zhuni. Anyways, a beautiful old yixing.

Re: Solving the mystery of Hokuro

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:54 pm
by jwsteeb
pedant wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:15 am
sweet pot. got any pics of it all cleaned up?
Here are some close-up pics of the cleaned-up teapot.

Re: Solving the mystery of Hokuro

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:05 pm
by jwsteeb
Bok wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:04 am
Looks like a Chinese Late Qing/early ROC pot. Made for export in a rougher quality. Does not look like Japanese made Yixing(which exists) nor does it look like Japanese clay. Yixing Zisha it is.
Thanks! Late Qing would match up with the box seal (though this is purely speculative). It’s definitely on the rougher, wabi-sabi side (which I think adds to its charm), and that might be what appealed to the original Japanese owner.

Re: Solving the mystery of Hokuro

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:47 pm
by jwsteeb
.m. wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:00 am
The characters 朱泥 stand for zhuni. Likely the box did not originally belong to this teapot but to a different one made of zhuni. Anyways, a beautiful old yixing.
I agree that in Chinese usage, 朱泥 refers specifically to Zhuni clay. However, it seems (and please correct me if I’m wrong) that the Japanese sometimes use it more generically to refer to Zisha clay in general. While browsing Yahoo Auctions, I’ve come across teapots made of Zini that have Zhuni in their descriptions and on box labels.

Re: Solving the mystery of Hokuro

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 5:20 am
by umami
Beautiful teapot!

As far as I've seen 朱泥 (shudei) in this context in Japan just means any kind of red tint colored teapot. So it will include any hongni, zhuni etc and even reddish zini.