How long the clay has been aged doesn't matter form a tea drinking point of view.
It just means how long the processed clay was sitting in a storage room.
How long the clay has been aged doesn't matter form a tea drinking point of view.
Just a little clarification, my annoyance wasn’t directed at you, but rather at those who plant these odd ideas in people’s heads!
I think you meant "wasn't"Bok wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:09 pmJust a little clarification, my annoyance was directed at you, bu rather at those who plant these odd ideas in people’s heads!
Hope my abrupt reaction didn’t discourage you, it’s hot here and the fuse can be short
Thank you Bok for saying that. I almost criedBok wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:09 pmJust a little clarification, my annoyance wasn’t directed at you, but rather at those who plant these odd ideas in people’s heads!
Hope my abrupt reaction didn’t discourage you, it’s hot here and the fuse can be short
Thank you for the advice.Bok wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:06 pm@3rdfolder
Glad you didn’t take it to heart
Green and white label refer to certain periods of the now defunct Yixing Factory 1, where most of these teapots for a long period were made until the dissolution and separation into private workshops.
Most collectors only consider until green label so late 70- early 80s. Reasons are up to debate, but that’s a deep and confusing topic. You’ll find some info around this forum if you want to dig in.
I’d not recommend a Zhuni for a relative beginner, I’d maybe go for something that has a little more obvious effect on tea, like Hongni or Zini. Again a deep and confusing topic, it takes time to find your way. My advice is to read and observe more, before you commit.
I’d recommend the newly made pots from Essence of tea or Teaswelike as a good and safe introduction. Vintage is possible also for Westerners but I don’t recommend it if you do not know yet what you are looking at. Ask questions around here, you’ll find us helpful, albeit as I demonstrated, sometimes grumpy
I see! You are right! Maybe Di Cao Qing could be another alternative...Bok wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:12 amI wouldn’t exclude Zini so fast. It’s the largest group of Yixing clays and the properties can vary wildly. It can do much more than just brew Puerh...
From the vendors above, all seem ok, they sell teapots and won’t rip you off as far as that goes. Chanting pines I do find over priced across the whole range, be it old or new. I don’t see how their pots are much different than the other vendors, they even seem to share some sources with Eot.
Thank you for your wise wordsAndrew S wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:34 amAside from agreeing with Bok, as a fellow Westerner, I might just add that you should probably think of your first teapot as your first small step on a long journey of discovery, and you should probably assume that you'll fall in and out of love with your first teapot as time moves on.
Every pot has a story to tell. At this stage, it's mostly about learning what you can from others, understanding and minimising your risk, aiming for a vendor who won't sell you an objectively-bad teapot, and then learning more as you use your first pot.
Andrew
Out of curiosity, does either undergo a change in color when filled with hot water?
Worth mentioning that as far as old Zhuni is concerned, the colour palette is very broad. I’ve had both of these colour expressions above, and more orange, more red, light brown, purple and all of the above in one pot, so... what’s more useful to look at is the certain, hard to describe sheen, that is very different in old vs new pots.