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Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:09 pm
by steanze
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:40 pm
I have been learning more about hongni category, and I came across this pot. Initially, I thought it might be 90s F1 pot as it has a F1 potter's mark. I think it has been painted with a dark tone of material on inside and outside. I am not sure if this is done in 90s F1. What do you think? ;)
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I think this is not a F1 pot. More pictures would help though :)

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:13 pm
by DailyTX
Bok wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:01 pm
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:40 pm
I have been learning more about hongni category, and I came across this pot. Initially, I thought it might be 90s F1 pot as it has a F1 potter's mark. I think it has been painted with a dark tone of material on inside and outside. I am not sure if this is done in 90s F1. What do you think? ;)
Got more pics of the overall pot? Looks odd from these images. That filter hole area looks very weird...
It’s night time here, I’ll take a few more photos tomorrow. The filter area certainly is weird. Initially, I thought previous owner used an abrasive pad or something to clean the inside, but when I examined closely, it looks more like brush mark. The outside has an even orange-red color tone that’s darker than inside.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:36 pm
by DailyTX
steanze wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:09 pm
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:40 pm
I have been learning more about hongni category, and I came across this pot. Initially, I thought it might be 90s F1 pot as it has a F1 potter's mark. I think it has been painted with a dark tone of material on inside and outside. I am not sure if this is done in 90s F1. What do you think? ;)
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I think this is not a F1 pot. More pictures would help though :)
@steanze
I agree with your assessment after handling the pot in person yet I haven't seen enough 90s F1 pots. Since you and @Bok are here, here are a few more photos taken with indoor light. The base has 宋宝娟 chop.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:07 pm
by steanze
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:36 pm
steanze wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:09 pm
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:40 pm
I have been learning more about hongni category, and I came across this pot. Initially, I thought it might be 90s F1 pot as it has a F1 potter's mark. I think it has been painted with a dark tone of material on inside and outside. I am not sure if this is done in 90s F1. What do you think? ;)
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I think this is not a F1 pot. More pictures would help though :)
steanze
I agree with your assessment after handling the pot in person yet I haven't seen enough 90s F1 pots. Since you and Bok are here, here are a few more photos taken with indoor light. The base has 宋宝娟 chop.
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Still don't think this is F1. But in the '90s F1 made a lot of unusual pots, so it's hard to know for sure.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:26 pm
by 26uk
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:05 am
Any collectors/seniors can provide input if 太阳线 existed before factory period? ;)
Curious about this question too. I've been looking at pots at auction and those that are old or supposedly old never have this 太阳线 (sunbeams?). Only factory period (maybe) and newer.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:40 pm
by steanze
26uk wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:26 pm
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:05 am
Any collectors/seniors can provide input if 太阳线 existed before factory period? ;)
Curious about this question too. I've been looking at pots at auction and those that are old or supposedly old never have this 太阳线 (sunbeams?). Only factory period (maybe) and newer.
it can happen before factory period, but it is not common. Here are two examples of this on the interior of late Qing zhuni teapots.

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Be careful, auctions are flooded with fakes, with and without sunbeams.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:42 pm
by 26uk
Thanks for the examples, good to know. Yeah auctions are minefield. Crazy place.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:50 pm
by DailyTX
26uk wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:42 pm
Thanks for the examples, good to know. Yeah auctions are minefield. Crazy place.
Looks like the mystery is solved thanks to @steanze

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:31 pm
by OCTO
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:50 pm
26uk wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:42 pm
Thanks for the examples, good to know. Yeah auctions are minefield. Crazy place.
Looks like the mystery is solved thanks to steanze
👍🏻

Re: Yixing

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:01 pm
by DailyTX
@Bok here are a few more photos with natural lighting that captured this pot's color. It's high fire, medium thickness, and appeared to be mold made.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:38 pm
by Bok
DailyTX wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:01 pm
Bok here are a few more photos with natural lighting that captured this pot's color. It's high fire, medium thickness, and appeared to be mold made.
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Can’t really say much, but it seems modern to me.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:56 pm
by OCTO
Bok wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:38 pm
DailyTX wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:01 pm
Bok here are a few more photos with natural lighting that captured this pot's color. It's high fire, medium thickness, and appeared to be mold made.
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Can’t really say much, but it seems modern to me.
Yeah... looks like modern HongNi blend to me... coated with a layer of Hong Jiang... :) :)

Re: Yixing

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:31 pm
by DailyTX
OCTO wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:56 pm
Bok wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:38 pm
DailyTX wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:01 pm
Bok here are a few more photos with natural lighting that captured this pot's color. It's high fire, medium thickness, and appeared to be mold made.
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Can’t really say much, but it seems modern to me.
Yeah... looks like modern HongNi blend to me... coated with a layer of Hong Jiang... :) :)
👍

Re: Yixing

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:27 pm
by Chadrinkincat
@DailyTX
Doesn’t look like an F1 pot to me either.

Clay sorta reminds me of a couple modern pots I’ve own.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:35 pm
by DailyTX
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:27 pm
DailyTX
Doesn’t look like an F1 pot to me either.

Clay sorta reminds me of a couple modern pots I’ve own.
👍 definitely feels differ than the F1 pot I own.